Thermaltake GeForce Cooling offerings:



http://www.overclockersclub.com/thermaltakegeforce4cooler.shtml

* Any of you guys using this unit, or a similar one to achieve higher overclocks & lower temperatures on your GeForce series (any of them really I suppose, but most interested in current crop) cards?

Just curious! I am on a "cooling my computer components binge" lately as it is generally a cheap thing to do & kind of fun in its own "McGyver" kind of way...

Plus, it's been UNUSUALLY HOT up here in Northeast U.S. this summer, & I am trying to compensate for my PC at least with many mods like these on its interior & all cards.

(The mods I have done to my GeForce4 Ti4600 are utterly hilarious... I tore open an old AT powersupply I had here & it had 2 HUGE aluminum heatsinks I attached to the RAM on this card, with 486 fans I added (this is on lower part of board) & 2 486 fans ontop of card with heatsinks of aluminum as well on the top ram also...)

* If you want, I can send you a pic of this, it's definitely "ghetto-styled" & MacGyver technology, but works well with the help of Arctic Silver Thermal Adhesive in the mix!

EDIT PART: Here's how it looked THEN...

TOP OF CARD:


BOTTOM OF CARD:


Was looking to use one of these Copper Thermaltake coolers originally pictured above, but later I got a BETTER idea judging by the results of my mod vs. the results shown in these reviews (which are great mind you for this cooler above but not what it CAN potentially be)...

More later at the end of this post/thread on the "final product" mod I did, pretty wild ghetto-style "McGyver" technology at work.



APK

P.S.=> The one appeals alot to me though, more than Crystal Orb even! Look at the charts/graphs on that page, & for $25 U.S. Dollars, not a bad little kit to invest in possibly! apk

http://www.ascully.com/modules.php?name=Reviews&rop=showcontent&id=119

Another one off today's front page here no less posted by Philipp & crew!

(This thing, I gotta grab one... was hoping some of you guys had used one already as I trust word-of-mouth BEST in conjunction/combination with reviews!)

* This thing looks very convincing in this review & the one I posted above for GeForce users!



APK

Whats the point, it reduced temps by like 5 degrees MAX, like that is gonna make a difference.

Not to mention you void your warranty in the process.

"Originally posted by M4Carbine Whats the point, it reduced temps by like 5 degrees MAX, like that is gonna make a difference. "

The point is better cooling = better overclocking = higher performance gained, if you o/c that is! Longer duration if you do not o/c & lifetime of the part being cooled.

(Pretty straight forward!)

E.G.=> Every degree you can cool them, is more you can o/c & thus, derive higher performance!

* Those charts are showing QUITE the difference, from both reviews I have URL's up there for showing consistency & plain-jane facts being conclusive & same...

"Originally posted by M4Carbine [B]
Not to mention you void your warranty in the process. "

That's gotten around easily enough...

I mean, lol, it's not hard to remove stuff you put on & clean it up, even if you used Arctic Silver Thermal Adhesives to attach fans & heatsinks!

Not tough to put on the old stock-stuff again. BUT, that's up to you & personal preference in that arena.

* The cooler you keep it? Odds are with you that you don't HAVE to use the warranty ever... cooler she runs, the longer she lasts line of thinking more or less!



APK

P.S.=> Plus, above all, it's cheap kit to buy & works wonders... the benchmarks URL I put up first show it increasing 3dMark scores a good deal as well as temperature drops, & the URL from the front page here today shows much of the same! apk

The closest I've come to anything like this is replacing the broken fan on my graphics card (a 16Mb PCI Riva TNT) with a shiny new ball bearing unit. The new one was thicker than the old one and the old screws wouldn't work so I substituted a set from the backshell of a D-Sub connector I had lying around. In addition, the fan plug wouldn't fit into the power socket on the card so I had to plug it into the system fan connector on the motherboard.

Sorry but the gf4 core seems to be limited just by its design. (0.15 @300mhz!) Cooling it 5 degrees is going to make 0 difference to its OC ability, or maybe 1mhz.

Well that was well worth the cost of the HS eh

"
Sorry but the gf4 core seems to be limited just by its design. (0.15 @300mhz!) Cooling it 5 degrrees is going to make 0 difference to its OC ability, or maybe 1mhz.

Well that was well worth the cost of the HS eh "

We'll see... I'll let you know!

I am currently at 315/660 here using the stock one & my own "ghetto style" hookup of 486 fans & aluminum heatsinks on the ram using Arctic Silver Thermal Adhesive.

It runs stable, & does well running long-term even in games without lockups.

So, When I get this part, & that should be soon, I will be checking if I can turn it up higher than that here... AND remain stable under higher o/c & under long-term gaming play.

I cannot currently & remain stable (run long without lockup etc. any higher than settings above), so if I can, this WILL be the difference obviously.

I know one thing: Even a 1 degree difference makes a HUGE diff. on CPU's being able to be o/c more even...

(Personally, I cannot see why this would be diff. here on a GPU!)

The reviews up there show HUGE score increases on 3dMark etc. using this 3rd party cooler as well after, I believe, showing cooler temps & then trying higher O/C's...

What is not convincing you of this being a good thing, I am just curious, on two diff. tests run by two diff. sites??

APK

P.S.=> Even if I do not overclock it, to me & I am sure most folks, COOLER=LONGER LIVING in electronics generally... apk

And im sure you can really tell the difference in games with that monster 15mhz core increase.

This is what convinces me, why would i void my warranty just to get a pathetic 20mhz overclock at most, for 0 real world gain.

I get 12000 3dmarks and im sure you can manage that, but who cares

And 1 degree difference does not make a 'huge' difference on CPUs.]

Oh and cooler=longer living ?, ill have changed the card by the time it dies anyway, ive still got TNT2s/Geforce 2 GTSs that still work perfectly with the retail coolers.

We are talking years here!

"Originally posted by M4Carbine And im sure you can really tell the difference in games with that monster 15mhz core increase."

Good point! I can concede that... Maybe under HEAVY fire OR bloodspatters it may help some! I will take ANY increase I can get, along with others I make to both hardware & software, all working together in unison!

Perceivably increasing, noticeable by myself as the user & not ONLY on benchmarks? I don't know BY ITSELF ONLY at 15mhz raise. BUT, if this cooling helps me get lower temps & as a bonus, get another 15-20mhz++, I bet it will!

(But o/c'ing it definitely showed it works on those URL's, increases on test programs & using this cooler.)

ADD ONTO THAT OVERCLOCK I HAVE WITH THIS STUFF ALSO I DO HERE:

1.) Add to that the fact I am getting another 11% out of my Dual CPU/SMP Pentium III 1ghz @1127mhz (on 2 CPU's overclocked) as well, it may very well be showing when they act together!

2.) Toss onto that the fact my BIOS is also cranked up on:

a. PCI latency

b. memory speeds

c. memory latency of refresh

3.) Add onto the fact my OS is tuned & drivers are ALL current & high-performance (on ALL boards).

4.) Add onto the fact my 315/665 overclock of the GeForce4 Ti4600 I have...

Well, yea... I'd say I notice it with all that going on & working together for me, no benchmark needed!

I've noted tweaks tend to accumulate & accentuate one another, both at hardware levels & software too, and definitely so if combined (tweaking hardware & software/OS both).

"Originally posted by M4Carbine
This is what convinces me, why would i void my warranty just to get a pathetic 20mhz overclock at most, for 0 real world gain."

I know one thing for sure, as do most overclockers & tweakers: You do that stuff, to both hardwares & at OS level in tuning (if not in games also in their config files)? YOU SEE/FEEL the boost! And, you need no benchmark to see/feel it either (though those definitely reflect it, as did the URL's above).

They accumulate & accentuate one another, the more tweaks you pull at both hardware + software levels... every bit helps, just like a mustache is formed by alot of tinier hairs & becomes noticeable/visible!

"Originally posted by M4Carbine
And 1 degree difference does not make a 'huge' difference on CPUs.]"

Depends it if is the "straw that breaks the camel's back" I'd say... that one degree can make a diff. between an extra 7.5mhz for me at CPU level for example thru my Award SoftBIOS system (overclocking thru the BIOS, no jumpers for FSB speedups) & I will take every bit I can!

"Originally posted by M4Carbine
Oh and cooler=longer living ?, ill have changed the card by the time it dies anyway, ive still got TNT2s/Geforce 2 GTSs that still work perfectly with the retail coolers."

I just want them to run as long as possible since I DO OverClock! Cooling helps there!

It most definitely does in any electronics... cooler your stuff runs, longer it lasts!

"Originally posted by M4Carbine
We are talking years here!"

Right... cooler you make it run, the more years you get. EVEN IF NOT O/C'd! If you O/C, you get more time out of it, as well as adding to performance (perceived by itself or not, it is a measureable increase that can matter in a heavy active situation in a game with explosions & blood spattering etc.).

I'll take any increase in performance for cheap I can get, especially adding a bunch of them together as I have above!

For ONLY $25? You betcha!

*

APK

P.S.=> Your last phrase, years: That works against what you said man! If you overclock, you potentially take off years without cooling! Which is why I do it as well! If you keep a piece of electronics cool, and do not o/c as you can on this stuff, you get MORE life out of it without doubt assuming all things are equal when compared to boards like it not cooled better... But, to each his own, it is your own PERSONAL computer & all that stuff! apk

Another review on this piece of equipment again, showing its vast superiority over the Stock GeForce4 Ti4600 cooler (courtesy of the homepage of this forum from Philipp & crew here at NTCompatible):

THE REVIEW OF THIS UNIT, 3rd in this posting & favorable again:

http://www.extremeoverclocking.com/reviews/video/ThermaltakeGF4_1.html

THE UNIT ITSELF, ALL COPPER GeForce GPU cooling fan + heatsink:



BEFORE IT IS ON GEFORCE:



AFTER IT IS ON GEFORCE:



* I have to snag one of these now, too many reviews showing it to be really really good!

(Cheap buy too!)



APK

P.S.=> Pics in post courtesy of www.extremeoverclocking.com ... apk

hehe Actual temps decreaced by approximatly 3-5 degrees C.

I love those graphs, maybe if they set the axis at 0, instead of 330 it would make you realise what a pathetic increase that is.

Max overclock was all of 5mhz

$19.99 for 5mhz overclock!??

"
hehe Actual temps decreaced by approximatly 3-5 degrees C.

I love those graphs, maybe if they set the axis at 0, instead of 330 it would make you realise what a pathetic increase that is.

Max overclock was all of 5mhz

.99 for 5mhz overclock!?? "

IN TERMS OF VALUE:

NOW, Let's view that in terms of %'s shall we?

Stock speed of card is 300mhz in memory. Buy this cooler & add it on, get to 330 mhz easy as pie (I bet this can make it get 330mhz though even now, on a cooler day/night because of mods on it already which this Copper Heatsink will increase as is, but will probably gain me that on HOT days even, STABLE!):

10% speed boost for what? Less then 10% of the cost of the card initially!

My card cost me $427 total with lifetime guarantee from NVidia. 10% of that is what? $43 roughly??

Hmmm... so, given those FACTS, "MR. ACCOUNTANT"...

10% increase in speed for $20 vs. 10% cost of my card at $43...

YOU DO THE MATH! You brought up costs... seems the cost-benefit analysis seems to be in my favor is it not?

I rest my case in cost terms, which is all you seem to understand & appreciate!

(Though you gain more than just that savings, your accountant's mentality (which is not putting up a good showing given those numbers above) does not appreciate it apparently as I show & stated below next & above also regarding cooling benefits)

So I put it in your terms! Again: Argue with those numbers now, OK?

ONLY PROBLEM IS, How can you argue with those facts/numbers above?? The justification for cost outlay is there & you come out FAR ahead (EVEN IN YOUR TERMS ONLY!)

The old GeForce Fan? Well, yea, I will use that too now... on my NorthBridge controller on my motherboard! I have an open CPU power slot now that I picked up my Delta 8000rpm/51.1cfm CPU heatsink fans which power-up off 4 pin connectors. It's not worth squat anyhow in cost, but still, I lose NOTHING here... zip! It even gets used effectively & efficiently! NO LOSSES, & a gain in cost/benefit.

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IN TERMS OF PERFORMANCE:

There's no saying that "5 mhz" is only that much gain & that's it... I know it's probably not man. For me, it probably will be 15-20 mhz over what I have now, which is up from stock QUITE a bit!

Stock is - 300/650

Now, I have - 315/665 (Now as of today & stable)

Assuming your "5 mhz" is all I can do (humoring you & giving you the benefit of the doubt even) which I know overall from Stock Speeds I will get I am guessing 340/685 probably after this part is added QUITE possibly!

AGAIN: I KNOW that I can push 330/680 outta it probably as is NOW on a cold day/night: A solid 10% easy over stock speeds & go WAY farther with this Copper Cooler on it OR insure that 10% overall performance boost over stock levels on HOT days even!

For 5% COST FOR 10%-15%++ BOOST IN SPEED FROM ABOVE! I can do that: easy! Makes sense to do so in fact.

I cannot reach past 330mhz++ memory speeds without this cooler either, so spending 5% for 10% gain in performance? Yea... I'd take that cost/benefit analysis!

(I have alot better heatsinks + fans on my RAM than that kit offers already which cost me nothing: They came from an old AT PowerSupply... HUGE aluminum ones with old 486 ball bearing fans on them I had around here in my parts box! In fact, I'd bet I can EXCEED that 330-340 range, but do not want to jump the gun. The record is alot higher than that I am sure, & the 3 tests with charts only back my assumptions of this speed-range more. Theirs were not as well cooled on heatsinks as mine is either.)

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IN TERMS OF ELECTRONICS LONGEVITY FROM COOLING:

The funny part is though, you don't seem to believe the cooling down another 3-5 degrees makes a difference... it does for longevity. Especially when you overclock! AND, when you overclock? That temp. decrease is mhz increase...

Don't you value what you buy & wish it to last & perform as well as possible?

Hey: To each his own. I just like what I have to be the BEST it can be in all things whenever I can AND get good value for my cash with something to show for it... do you?

Apparently not, judging by your judgement based on cost-benefit % or even electronics being benefitted by cooling.



APK

P.S.=> Somehow, I think you'll have trouble arguing with this one...IF you even reply... apk

Na whats the point, i could produce some numbers of my own but you seem set on buying it anyway, and you really need to calm down a bit. I never meant to insult you or anything in any above post.

Just let me know what results you get, im SURE youll get some massive overclock like 400/800 just from buying this cooler, and even if you dont youll say that you have.

Have fun.

"Originally posted by M4Carbine Na whats the point, i could produce some numbers of my own but you seem set on buying it anyway, and you really need to calm down a bit. I never meant to insult you or anything in any above post."

No please, by all means... produce them! You spoke so freely before... do so now.

Show us all those numbers of yours you say you can produce (from where or about what I have NO idea) after saying how bad of a value it was to purchase one of these as you did above repeatedly.

Funny: I showed QUITE the opposite, using your OWN "enron accountant" point of view doing a cost-benefit analysis. I will be spending 5% of the value of this card () for a 10% overclock increase (300mhz to 330mhz) OR MORE.

(I did that, since you would not respond to cooling prolonging the life of electronics, especially in PC electronics for overclockers. AND that cooling also allows higher overclocks in combination with longer duration of electronics which 3 recent reviews by sites above substantiate fully.)

* I did not take it as an insult, FAR from it, but had to strike the point home with you own logic (which it seems still is not sinking in...):

What's wrong with that value in cost-benefit terms?

"Originally posted by M4Carbine
Just let me know what results you get"

Anyhow POST YOUR ANALYSIS: I may learn something from it too! Seriously, you may point out something I did not realize or overlooked!

"Originally posted by M4Carbine
im SURE youll get some massive overclock like 400/800 just from buying this cooler, and even if you dont youll say that you have."

?

Oh please... Come on!

The fact you could even suggest such a thing, only exposes us to your train of thought, & what YOU'D DO yourself. Stating that about me, if that's NOT trying to insult me, I don't know what is!

(I don't have to say it either: The reviews I posted (3 of them showing it did well) do for me more than adequately.)

Please... give us a break! If you're gonna talk the talk, walk the walk. Most folks call someone like that who talks alot & then cannot back it up, a "b.s.'er"... hot air, no substance.

*

"Originally posted by M4Carbine
Have fun. "

On having fun? I always do, OR try.... especially making someone like yourself eat his own words after busting on me, like you did in your last statement there above this one! That's UNCOOL man...

APK

P.S.=> Hey, all I did was turn folks onto a thing that's getting some GOOD reviews, & by showing not only in terms of this card being a benefit in that [B]this copper cooler cools GeForce's & prolongs their life, & allows larger overclocks also, but also using your logic also of value vs. money spent in my cost/benefit analysis (your own ballcourt too, & mine backed by 3 verifiable site results)... TOO Easy! BUT, what do you want man? apk

Another decent review of it!

http://www.systemcooling.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=113

* I ended up doing something completely DIFFERENT though... & way better from the results!

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THERMALTAKE COPPER GPU COOLER PICTURE:



(LOL, now THIS photo below next is cooling my GeForce4 Ti4600 instead... radical move, paid off great!)

CompUSA/Vantec 6040h Copper/Thin-Fin Heatsink + FAN Combo Picture:



(23.1cfm/5000rpm fans on it, & way more surface area than even the Thermaltake copper cooler up there for whom I posted links to reviews for it above... fans size diff. pictured next on my CPU fans, from the YSTech 23.1cfm/5000rpm units vs. Delta 51.1cfm/8000rpm ones)



Same cost for it as well as the Thermaltake offering above, $20, for a CompUSA copper/thin-fin CPU heatsink I put on instead... with 2x the cubic foot per minute air flow of the Thermaltake unit, & way more surface area too!

GREAT results! BIG Plus also:

I ended up using the 23.1 cfm fans I had from my other CompUSA Gamer heatsinks that I replaced with Delta 51.1cfm/8000rpm fans with on my CPU heatsinks (duallie rig here)... took a bit of wire splicing & electrical tape with wire caps on them, but worked out!

I.E.-> I put those 23.1 cfm/5000rpm fans on my GeForce4 Ti4600 GIANT Aluminum heatsinks for extra cooling & to good effect!

My results are NOW at:

330mhz core
750mhz memory

(MOST OF THOSE SITES IN THOSE REVIEWS ABOVE, WITH THE THERMALTAKE OFFERING ABOVE PICTURED IN THE OPENING POST ARE PUSHING AROUND 315-320 core & upper 600's in memory... I think I took the better route, judging by my results which can be higher come winter! That's just where I settled, more on that below!)

SOLID & STABLE AS STEEL! No visual artifacts & 4x AGP as well... huge huge boost at that rate I achieved above.

(On going faster: I was able to push up to 333mhz/770mhz, but was showing small artifacts on 2d text in IE, & also small specks in games... I turned it down. This held stable though, for 5 hours prior to lockup!)

* Average overall 20% between core & memory boost, all for 5% of the cost of the card itself at $427.



APK

P.S.=> Downside is for others if they do this: It eats 3 PCI slots. I don't mind, I did not use them here & am going more & more to external USB parts anyhow so I can pull off cooling tricks like this! apk

Just a quick question, did sticking that monster heatsink on the core improve the overclockability of the memory in anyway?!?!?

Not 1000% sure if it did or not, but I imagine it helped!

I know I could not push as high up as 333mhz corespeed & 770 memory before, that's for sure!

(I can keep it at that for LONG periods of time, but chose not to, when after 5 hours of it running that way it kept stable, but had TINY specks flashing in games (3d) & small text fonts blurs in IE (2d))

I settled on 330mhz core & 770mhz memory, seems very solid/stable & fast, & does the job for me. I would take a look around on those review sites, & see they are pushing other speeds using the Thermaltake Copper GPU cooler (which has 1/2 the cfm & less I'd wager in surface area heatsink design-wise).

If memory serves me right, those reviews show something in the area of 315-320 core & 650-680 memory clocks.

* My memory chips are covered by 2 really LARGE Aluminum Heatsinks from an old AT PowerSupply, the most important part. Alot more surface area exposed than the tinier heatsinks that come with kits like the Thermaltake one.

Those same old AT PowerSupply Aluminum Heatsinks also now have not only 2 small 486 size fans on them on their interior, but on exterior also have 2 23.1cfm/5000rpm fans from my heatsinks for my CPU's (YSTech type that came on them before I replaced my CPU heatsink fans with 51.1cfm/8000rpm Deltas).

This may have helped my memory core as well a great deal... I would think so.



APK

P.S.=> All in all, concluded as a "Good Experiment" in case modding & fortifying my cooling systems... this one in particular, for 5% of the cost of the GeForce4 Ti4600, I gained overall approximately 20% boost in overclockeability, & more if I wish to push it... probably will, come winter! apk

Ah, my attempts to describe it above don't do it justice...

I should send you a pic of how it looks now that it's done!

Heh, here's a quote from a guy in email that got pictures of it from me after reading this post:

"> APK,
> Thanks for the pics.
> I thought I was rough but you have that crown
> Those twist ties you have on your cables scare me, look like they could
> short something out..
> Be careful and have fun.
>
> " He who dies with the most toys wins ! "
>
> Magoo
"

(Freakshow stuff, definitely "ghetto styled" cooling, but works well!)

*

APK

P.S.=> That's it: Come Monday, I am FINALLY going to start using my alloted webspace that RoadRunner gives me to put up pictures here, so you can see the photos of this mod: It's radical, but works! apk

BEFORE ALL MODS:

A.) Top of card with LARGE Aluminum heatsinks + Pentium I Heatsinks + fans on RAM upper & Stock GPU Cooler (this stayed the same):



B.) Bottom of card with LARGE Aluminum heatsinks + 486 fans & Stock GPU Cooler:



AFTER ALL MODS:

C.) Bottom of card with LARGE Aluminum heatsinks + 486 fans AND now added YSTech 23.1cfm Fans on heatsinks for RAM. Added now is Vantec Copper/Thin-Fin CPU cooler on GPU:



HOW IT SITS IN CASE LOWER END:



(Now, with "pencil push" column technique courtesy of Bursar's suggestion below... thanks Bursar for GOOD idea to not stress AGP motherboard slot mount! Works great as you can see, no bowing, with the "dual screws" mount on the card in the slot now to reinforce it also!)

* If you look REAL hard in the upper right-hand-side corner under the round drive cables, you can even see the Thermaltake RAM cooling heatspreaders on my PC-133 Micron RAM (set 4 way interleave + Turbo & Cas/3 with no wait states) in blue & the one gold one with a fan on it too!

Between this GeForce4 mod, the CPU cooling mod I did with Vantec 6040H style copper-thin fin heatsinks now using Delta 8000rpm/51.1 cfm fans for the CPUs & the RAM cooling?

It's weathering even this HOT summer... very well, stable as solid steel & overclocked Dual/SMP CPU's @ 1140mhz & 330 core + 770 memory on the GeForce4 Ti4600 with the RAM set Cas/3 + Turbo in 4-way interleaving & zero wait-states, with PCI latency of 16! Combine that with a Western Digital 120gb EIDE 7200rpm ATA-100 8mb buffered disk & a RAID 0 Array stripe 3 disk x Western Digital 40gb EIDE 7200rpm ATA-100 2mb buffered each disk second logical disk?

She's quick for a Pentium III & runs up with P4 1.4-1.7ghz units!



APK

P.S.=> Above all: I had fun "hot-rodding" it: Only 1 thing left to do & that's get a Cenatek PCI-ScSi 'RocketDrive' solid-state Ramdrive card for it... & she's done! apk

How much strain is that lot putting on your card?

It looks like it needs a couple of supports to stop it from bending. And if something should come loose, you can kiss goodbye to just about everything in the path of the falling heatsink!

Heh, good... you guys can see the photographs! First off, that's a relief unto itself & about time I started using what RR gives me for storage of that material.

" How much strain is that lot putting on your card?"

GOOD Question!

SEE ABOVE (EDIT PART): YOU "INSPIRED ME" TO PUT THE PENCIL IN AS A SUPPORT POST IN FACT ON THE RIGHT-HAND-SIDE OF THE CARD! Thanks...

(On the HeatSink attachment itself: You'd be AMAZED at how very strong Arctic Silver Thermal Adhesive really truly is... as well as a great heat conducting element using micronized silver into the copper base of that heatsink! I most certainly was...)

"
It looks like it needs a couple of supports to stop it from bending. And if something should come loose, you can kiss goodbye to just about everything in the path of the falling heatsink!"

Again, see above & thanks for idea & 'inspiration' to do it, it makes sense.

(The rubber eraser makes contact with the board now, no conductive possibilities either too! This eases strain on the AGP connection now too, holding it up "more solidly" as well. Even though it held for 3 weeks now, I do not like stressing the mobo, & thus, now alleviated!)

*

APK

my leadtek oc's that much stock
i dont run it oc'ed though
no need

"
my leadtek oc's that much stock
i dont run it oc'ed though
no need"

I think I could push farther man... I just won't in this heat! I know I could not touch that before... no way! I could do MAYBE 315-665 or so. In fact, the reviews thru this post of the tests on the Thermaltake kits are only showing 315/675 or so too iirc! I am exceeding that where I could not even come close before... on the "cheap" no less!

(By the way Jerry: You have one heck of a board! I'd love to see what it'd do with a rigjob like this! Downside is PCI slots eaten, but I use alot of USB stuff... soon, that NIC will be gone too & I will use my RR with USB from another thread's feedback here today...)

* The whole idea for me was to o/c it & keep stability & longevity in the summer heat here initially!

(I am betting that I can pass the 330/770 up to 335/790 or more when the ambient surrounding temp drops more... I just won't chance it now in this 90-95 F heat we are having lately, setting records in fact for most in a row & accumulated up here over 50 years recorded...)

We'll see... I'll periodically update it with how it does in lower ambients!

Now, earlier in this thread on a 95-100 F degree day, it held 333/770 quite well for 5 hours but at the end began showing "specs" flying across Quake III Arena screens (& I was pushing hard that day gaming ALOT to see how it'd hold up).

It locked after 5 hours of that... not 100% sure that was what caused it but I would bank on that though! Tonite, when it cools down to around 75 F degrees ambient, I will be trying higher memory speeds as well...

(How high can your memory go Jerry & Core GPU too?? Give me an idea to start out at... thanks, if you've tested/pushed it!)

*

APK

P.S.=> Heh, almost never thought I'd say this: I cannot wait for fall/winter temperatures... I really want to see how far I can push this puppy! I am guessing 335/790 if not 340/800 once the 65 F degree ranges of ambients happen... apk

well i tested the oc right after i got it in my p3 700 system
my dual p4 xeon system runs very hot and my oat runs commonly in the 90's (mid 30's to u non usa peeps)
cpu #2 is usually at 135f (almost 60c) after several hours of wolf

i havent needed any extra frames (i get 120+ easy in wolf) so i havent oc'ed the vid card

although when winter comes around i may try just to see if i can catch sunthin on fire

"my dual p4 xeon system runs very hot and my oat runs commonly in the 90's (mid 30's to u non usa peeps)
cpu #2 is usually at 135f (almost 60c) after several hours of wolf"

Picture of Jerry Atrik's LeadTek GeForce 4 Ti4600 type board (for a "compare & contrast" type thing):



(Heh, by NO MEANS std. at all... I thought it was, boy was I in for a surprise... must go great with Duallie Xeon rig!)

Jerry: Ever thought of snagging two 486 Heatsink + fan or Pentium I heatsink + fan combos & putting them onto the topside of the card RAM too? They're cheap & easy to get ahold of first of all, & secondly easily attached using Arctic Silver Thermal Adhesive as well.

Think about it!

ALSO, I envy you with that Dual Xeon setup combined with GeForce4 Ti4600:

THAT'S MY "DREAM MACHINE" currently! Well, I might want one of those ATI 9700 units, but will wait out NV30! I want to build one up like that for Doom III... I have a year in which to get the coins/deadpresidents together for it pinching the pennies etc. & earning shareware cash I sell off.

Good man: You're a "Duallie/SMP" freak like myself too I see, as you can see above in the pic of my rig lower interior! So, I applaud your taste in hotrod PC designwork as well as your choice in pre-fabbed "hot-rodded" GeForce4 Ti4600 boards!

I got my GeForce4 Ti4600 VisionTek as soon as they came out & I had to do what I did to gain as I did. I had heard about the Leadtek unit that released later on & that they were highly modded that you use! I had NO idea they came like that outta the box! Intense...

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i havent needed any extra frames (i get 120+ easy in wolf) so i havent oc'ed the vid card"

WHEW, with a Dual Xeon BLASTER like that? Heh, that statement I have NO doubt of whatsoever... hence, why I want one!

I am doing around 100-110 fps on a Dual Pentium III 1140mhz overclock now stable with:

A.) This cooling rigjob on the GeForce4 o/c 330/770 stable now.

B.) Quake III Arena/Team Arena at 1024x768 full sharpness + colors & details with tweaked q3config.cfg & autoexec.cfg (plus, tuned OS).

C.) GeForce driver settings at 4x AntiAliasing & 8x AntiIsotropic setup for OpenGL

I need a GOOD timedemo for Quake III 1.31 release though, I am only testing it in the wide open areas on the engine in spots on a certain map. Other spots it shoots up to 160 frames per second, so I would like to get a demo that works on recent update of Q3 which I use to test this.

(Compared to your Duallie/SMP Xeon? I am really CPU limited here: I imagine you're pushing that 120fps on 1600x1200 full out settings too!)

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although when winter comes around i may try just to see if i can catch sunthin on fire

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WHY WAIT? lol... DO IT NOW, GO FOR IT! NOT... this stuff costs mucho dinero! I took a risk & it paid off... but it was a PAIN to go thru in wire splicing hell & also being MEGA careful.



APK