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DosFreak
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Need for Speed: High Stakes & Worms Armageddon

I am currently trying to get Need for Speed High Stakes Setup to run in Windows 2000 and I may have figured it out. *sigh* Here goes:

On a freshly installed Windows 2000 SP1 with NO other updates installed HS setup complains with a "You must have 95/98". Using the Application Compatibility Toolkit (Not appcompat.exe but the full toolkit) I FINALLY got it to work. So I come into work today and pop it into my work computer.... WTF IT LOADS ARRRRRRRGGHHH!! I haven't put the fix on there HTF can it load???!!! So I try it on another computer which hasn't been updated and I get the same error I got at home. I then install all of the latest application compatibility updated from Microsoft and it still doesn't work. (I know I know it doesn't mention HS in them but might as well try).


*UPDATE*
I FOUND IT! WOOHOO! It was in the application compatibility Toolkit all along! and Microsoft hasn't released it in their latest update but it is in the Application compatibility toolkit. GO HERE AND DOWNLOAD AND INSTALL THIS: http://msdn.microsoft.com/compatibility/act.exe

Do a search of Apcompat.inf that troublesome game that might be fixed. I'm currently working on a .txt of what's been fixed. Will take awhile though because it's BIG.

Sloppy work. Putting it in their Application Compatibility Toolkit but leaving it out of their update. What a mess. I should be running things over there.

Wanna know how I know that they could have put it in their update long ago? Check the date of apcompat.inf in the C:\ACT\Progra~1 directory. Look in the appfix.exe file. apcompat.inf is dated 5/24/200. Good work Microsoft. :mad: Who knows how long they have had it before that.

Hey Bill Gates. E-mail me. Fire some people and hire me I'll set your company straight.



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MoreLight
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Hey DosFreak. Should be changed to 2000Freak now. I went and pulled down the toolkit shortly after you posted the link earlier this weekend.

Very sweet set of tools. Props for digging up that one. I've been trying to use the tools to get Superbike 2001 to work, plus tips from other posts about deleting the files in the Miles subdir, but no luck so far.

Once you have the NFSHS problem dealt with, would you mind using your considerable talents in this area and try to get that one working also?

In the meantime, I'm going to blow the dust off my NFSHS disk and give it another try. Not enough tracks to play in Porsche Unleashed

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DosFreak
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Yep, HS is fixed. The fix is in the APP Toolkit but Microsoft never put it in their Updates. I guess they lost it and a whole lotta other stuff too. Sorry if my post was kinda cryptic.

I don't have the full game of Superbike but I'll play around with the demo for ya.

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did the Worms Armageddon fix work for you? still hangs on my machine.... if you got it, please let me know how!

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DosFreak
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I have fixes for:

Registry Updated usign QfixAPP. All ya gotta do is click on the .reg and the game works!

Silent Thunder A-10 Tank Killer 2
Wing Commander: The Kilrathi Saga for Windows 95 (Came on PCGamer CD)
X-COM UFO Defense Gold Edition (Came on PCGamer CD)

DOS Games

Aces over Europe
Betrayal at Krondor
Super Star Wars
Wing Commander Academy


Lemme know if ya want them SHS! I dunno who to email them to....

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You're a lifesaver DosFreak, many thanks, love this Toolkit.

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have u got the list finished yet i would be really interested to find out what else was fixed maybe you can get phillip or shs to post it in the downloads section or FAQ

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DosFreak
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Here's a listing of all of my games. I'm getting read to organize them all and upload the stats to SHS soon!

These are hardly complete. I'm still working on 'em.

GAMES WITH NO PROBLEMS IN WINDOWS 2000

Alpha Centauri
Baldur's Gate
Baldur's Gate Tales of the Sword Coast
Battlezone 2
Betrayal in Antara
Command & Conquer: Tiberian Sun
Darkstone
Descent 3
Deus Ex
Diablo
Diablo 2
Drakan
Driver
Dune 2000
Dungeon Keeper Gold
Dungeon Keeper 2
Fallout 2
Freespace 2
Grim Fandango
Ground Control
Half-Life
Half-Life Opposing Force
Heavy Gear 2
Heretic 2
Heroes of Might & Magic 3
Homeworld
Icewind Dale
Legacy of Kain Soul Reaver
Lemmings for Windows 95
MDK 2
Mechwarrior 3
Messiah
Microsoft Arcade
Need for Speed High Stakes
Omikron: The Nomad Soul
Outpost 2: Divided Destiny
Planescape Torment
Postal
Quake 3 Arena
Return to Krondor
Riven
Riven DVD
Sega Rally Championship
Simcity 3000
SimFarm
Sonic & Knuckles Collection
Starcraft
Starcraft Brood War
Star Trek: Borg
Star Wars: Racer
Swat 3
Team Apache
The Longest Journey
The Sims
Thief
Thief 2
Tomb Raider 2
Total Annihilation
*Total Annihilation The Core Contingency
Total Annihilation: Kingdoms
Ultima Ascension
Unreal
Unreal Tournament
Urban Chaos
Vampire The Masquerade
Warcraft 2 Battle.Net
Warcraft 2: Beyond the Dark Portal
Windows Entertainment Pack
Zork 1
Zork 2
Zork 3

Total=71

GAMES YOU HAVE TO MODIFY TO GET TO WORK.
Game works fine after modification.


Descent 2

Run INSTALL.EXE to install.
Download D2_W2ptch. Use Descent 2 for Windows 95 Patch to play Descent 2.

Doom Special Edition
Need Jdoom or equivalent

Doom 2
Need JDoom or equivalent

Heretic
Need JHeretic or equivalent

Hexen
Need JHexen or equivalent

Hidden & Dangerous

v1.2 patch breaks game. Less than 1.2 is good but sound
does not work like it should.

Quake
Requires GLQuake or equivalent to run.

Silent Thunder A-10 Tank Killer 2
Use QfixApp on A10Shell.exe and click "SanitizeCreateProcessStartupInfo.DLL"
Click the "Advanced" tab. Then click "Create attributes file".
Then go to the AppPatch folder in the Windows folder and click on A10Shell.reg
Now all you have to do is run the game like normal from the Shortcut!
Reinstall this .reg if you reinstall windows!

Wing Commander : The Kilrathi Saga for Windows 95
Use QfixApp on WC1.exe and click "IgnoreException.dll"
Click the "Advanced" tab. Then click "Create attributes file".
Then go to the AppPatch folder in the Windows folder and click on WC1.reg
Now all you have to do is run the game like normal from the Shortcut!
Reinstall this .reg if you reinstall windows!

Wolfenstein 3D
Use WolfGL.

X-COM UFO Defense Gold Edition (Windows 95)
Use QfixApp on UFO.exe and click "ForceDdrawEmulation.dll"
Click the "Advanced" tab. Then click "Create attributes file".
Then go to the AppPatch folder in the Windows folder and click on UFO.reg
Now all you have to do is run the game like normal from the Shortcut!
Reinstall this .reg if you reinstall windows!


Total=11

GAMES WITH PROBLEMS IN WINDOWS 2000
(All of these have sound & vesa problems the games are still playable though. Heck most of us played these
games with speaker and no vesa so it's about the same. )

DOS GAMES


NO SOUND

Abuse
Alien Trilogy
Alone in the Dark
Artura
Blake Stone: Planet Strike
Descent I
Duke Nukem 1
Duke Nukem 2
Dune 2
Extreme Pinball
Falcon 3.0
Hornet Naval Strike Fighter
Full Throttle
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
King'S Quest 1
Links Golf
Maniac Mansion
Monkey Island 1
Monkey Island 2
Mortal Kombat
Nascar Racing
Out of this World
Police Quest 3
Prince of Persia
Might and Magic - Secret of the Inner Sanctum
Raptor: Call of the Shadows
Realms of Chaos
Red Baron
Revolution X
Rise of the Triad
Shadowcaster
SimAnt
SimCity
Simon the Sorceror 2
Space Quest 1
Space Quest 4
Space Quest 5
Star Trek 25th Anniversary
Street Fighter 2 Turbo V6.9
The Savage Empire
Ultima 1
Ultima 4
Wacky Wheels
Wasteland
WolfPack
World Class Leader Board Golf
Yeager Air Combat


NEEDS VESA FOR HIGHER RESOLUTIONS

Blood
Duke Nukem 3D
Redneck Rampage Rides Again

Terminal Velocity
Screen Shakes

Virtual Pool
Wing Commander 3

Total=52


GAMES YOU HAVE TO MODIFY TO GET TO WORK.

Aces over Europe

Edit the AUTOEXEC.NT file in the SYSTEM32 directory and REM the DOSX line.
It should look like this:

REM Install DPMI support
REM lh %SystemRoot%\system32\dosx

Save the file.

Right-click on AOE.COM and go to the Memory tab. Max out the Memory.
Click on OK to save. Use the .pif or .EXE to play the game!
UnRem the line you REMed when you are done!

Aladdin
Run with Command.Com
Set XMS in Memory Properties to Maximum.

Betrayal at Krondor

Edit the AUTOEXEC.NT file in the SYSTEM32 directory and REM the DOSX line.
It should look like this:

REM Install DPMI support
REM lh %SystemRoot%\system32\dosx

Save the file.

Right-click on Krondor.exe and go to the Memory tab. Max out the Memory.
Click on OK to save. Use the .pif or .EXE to play the game!
UnRem the line you REMed when you are done!

Comanche Maximum Overkill
Install the M3H update and use C1.EXE

Populous 2
Set Expanded Memory to Maximum in properties.

Space Hulk
In the DRV_DIR rename sound.drv to sound.drk

Super Star Wars
Run with Command.Com
Set EXPANDED in Memory Properties to Maximum.

Wing Commander Academy
Set EXPANDED in Memory Properties to Maximum.

Total=8

GAMES I CAN'T (HAVEN'T) FIX(ED) YET
All Windows games have been tried with APCOMPAT & QFixAPP

4th Generation
Runtime error - Possibly DPMI

California Games
Hangs in Menu

Command & Conquer (Windows 95)
Command & Conquer: The Covert Operations
Detects Windows 5.0. Will not install.
Updating CD with newer Command & Conquer files allows installation....game will not work.

Crusader No Remorse
Unable to install-GPF
Unable to run-GPF

DaggerFall
Unable to install

Daytona USA
Pops up with "Game, Option, Help" Screen then exits.

Destruction Derby 2
Graphics are corrupted

JetFighter II Advanced Tactical Bundle
Illegal Instruction

Magic Carpet 2: The NetherWorlds
Run using Command.com
Mouse cursor stuck at upper left side of screen.

Mechwarrior 2 (DOS)
Mouse cursor stuck at upper left side of screen.

Mechwarrior 2: Mercenaries (DOS)
Mouse cursor stuck at upper left side of screen.

Mechwarrior 2: Mercenaries (Windows)

Megarace 2
Needs Vesa

Microsoft Flight Simulator 5.0
Disk error in FS5.ini

Missionforce: Cyberstorm
GFXCDSSurface:: Failed to create a Surface

Need for Speed
Needs Vesa

Need for Speed 2 SE
Need to modify an ._MP with QFixApp but I am too Stoopid to figure out how.

Quarantine
Messed up graphics just like Ultima 7

Star Trek: Klingon
Graphics don't show. Blank Screen.
QfixApp does not work.

Simcity 2000
Use Packard Bell (Vesa) for video.
Mouse stuck in upper left side of screen.

The 7 Cities of Gold
Can't select any menu items.

Turrican 2
Memory error.

Tyrian
Runtime error - Possibly DPMI

Ultima 7
Use U7WIN9X to play in Windows.
Play's very slow.
No sound.

Ultima Underworld
Hangs after EMS allocated.

Warcraft 2

Wizardry VI
Divide Overflow

Yoda Stories
failed to initialize properly (0Xc0000005)

Total=27


GAMES THAT I NEED TO WORK ON

Hong Kong Mahjong
Needs to be *****ed

Arachnaphobia
Needs to be *****ed


144 Games work in Windows 2000.
27 Games do not work in Windows 2000.



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eval
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Simple too, in installation, force sound to IBM compatable. Every pc has it now matter how new and support isn't a deal. Works right off and have complete sound. I don't know about the rest of the games you listed as not working due to sound, but you can give it a try on those too.

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DosFreak
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This is an old post and the ACT only works on about 10% of my games in 2K/XP. The rest require other modifications.

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how i can get crusader no remorse/regret working on w2k ?

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DosFreak
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Use Connectix Virtual PC or boot into Real DOS and play it. That's it.

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" Icewind Dale
"


I cannot get this game to work on Windows 2000, It gives me network errors even in single player Mode. Works Fine in Windows 98. I can't put my finger on the problem.

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Hey I just downloaded the "AC" tools and quite frankly I got an eaven better puch out of the tools on the original WinXp CD, Plus the Qfixapp doesn't work from the download.

I am still faving problems with Worms Armageddon
The ****ing FREEZE problem

Any help apreciated

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"Sloppy work. Putting it in their Application Compatibility Toolkit but leaving it out of their update. What a mess. I should be running things over there."


You should apply there... I am sure you could make it there, I know guys that work there that are "PRETTY OK" technically, but not outstanding (these are guys I have worked with in the past)... & they have jobs there.

I'd personally rank your knowledge (especially in this part of things, your gaming experience & knowledge of how to fiddle with them to make them work) of this arena, one of the software world's BIGGEST REVENUE MAKERS, GAMES, as superior to theirs.


"Hey Bill Gates. E-mail me. Fire some people and hire me I'll set your company straight.

"


That's one company that does not have to fire anyone & can take on more folks... they have CA$H out the you-know-what!

* Remember JohnK/Da-Man from 3dFiles who worked @ MS DosFreak? He told me, just apply @ their Atlanta or Washington location & he would get me in, & dumb me while I lived there did not, had a good job at the time is why...

Thing is, he was in the exact section you would be ideal for: GAME TESTING & he was good, but I think you're a quite a bit sharper on things gaming than he was.

APK

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I don't know....working for "The Enemy". I'd probably be looking over my shoulder every day. I know some people who hate MS more so than the military. I guess I'd feel kinda dirty to work at MS. But hey money is money.....

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"I don't know....working for "The Enemy". I'd probably be looking over my shoulder every day. I know some people who hate MS more so than the military. I guess I'd feel kinda dirty to work at MS. But hey money is money..... "


"The Enemy" ??

Anyone who hates Microsoft has serious problems I figure... it's only computers, you know what I mean? And, as far as the Military... you've GOTTA respect them: They are our own men & women & our protectors here in the U.S.A.!!!

(PLUS, after all, they're just a company that basically had revolutionized computing in alot of ways, & everyone else has to either try to gang up on them to take them down, OR play constant "catch-up" ball... )

For myself, personally, regarding their Operating System & API (as well as wealth of surrounding applications & supported hardwares), well... I have tried other things like Os/2 & Linux over the last decade.

Nice as they are & always improving (especially Linux which impresses me as a "humanity driven collective effort" a real socio-cultural phenomenon I respect?) Well, I always come back to MS development tools (not really THEIR tools but their API, I like Borland Development tools better).

The Win32 API: It's TOTALLY Elegant, Flexible, & POWERFUL: Nothing else like it out there, nothing!

* That's how I see it @ least... & that's been my experience!



(And, you're right: Money's money... all spends the same, & it's all green paper! No matter WHERE you make it @, but I can understand having a GOOD job & not wanting to leave it for another. A bird in the hand's worth 2 in the bush & all that stuff!)

APK

P.S.=> I have to admit though, hating Microsoft is a rather foolish thing to me @ least... hehe! apk

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DosFreak, you mentioned that you didn't have any problems with this game. Well I do and frankly I'm ****ed off. Those compatibility programs aren't helping me. I get this error message " Battle Zone 2 does not support Windoows NT "... and then I get error log of a certain exe-file that I can't find from any of my HDDs. Any ideas? Game works perfectly under XP.

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I've heard of some people having problems with Battlezone 2 installs. Mine installs fine without any tweaking. Have you tried using the Application Compatibility Layers first? (Creating a shortcut to the installer, doing a properties on it and choosing Windows 95).

Also search this forum for Battlezone 2.

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Help Guys! I can't get NFSHS to install.. Been Using Win2k SP3. There is no compatibility tab in properities. Tried to install appupd.exe but it said it is included in SP3 but hell I couldn't find it in the tab... any clue?

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start/run

regsvr32 x:\winnt\apppatch\slayerui.dll

Where x= drive letter where WINNT directory is located.

Search the forums for more information.

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Also, more info at the MSKB, article 279792.

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How did you get Command & Conquer: Tiberian Sun to work, DosFreak? I can't. I have the appcompat file but no fix for this game in it. I would like to play it someday soon on my 2k machine.

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I went on google and searched for "yoda stories" "0xc0000005" this site was the only one that came up. I love this game, it has kept me occupied for hours before when I was little. This site HAS TO BE the solution. I was wondering if anyone figured out how to fix the application error "failed to initialize properly (0Xc0000005)." I am not experienced in computers, so I was wondering if you could give me step by step instructions on how to fix this. I will resort to editing .dat files and hacking if I need to, just tell me how to do it. I AM DESPERATE! Oh yeah, I'm running Windows XP, if that helps.

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