Yet another unidentifable event log message, occurs in the system log on clean boot:

Source: Application Popup
Type: Information
Event ID: 26
User: N/A

Description:
Application popup: : Machine Check: Regs

Data: (Bytes)
0000: 00 00 08 00 03 00 6c 00 ......l.
0008: 00 00 00 00 1a 00 00 40 .......@
0010: 00 00 00 00 1a 00 00 40 .......@
0018: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0028: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........

No ill affects I just want to know out of curisosity, thanks anyhow.

At bootup, do you get any messages from the system try, ie, take a tour of windows, windows update, etc? It looks as though that's what it's from.

nope

I think it's something to do with a system service.. god knows which one though!

I'm having the same issue also accompanied by a extremely slow boot. It happens only occasionally though.

I also receive the following Machine Check intermittently

Data:
0000: 00 00 38 00 03 00 9c 00 ..8...?.
0008: 00 00 00 00 1a 00 00 40 .......@
0010: 01 00 00 00 1a 00 00 40 .......@
0018: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0028: 01 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 ........
0030: b0 71 67 ca 40 ab c2 01 °qgÊ@«Â.
0038: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0040: 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0048: 7b 26 c3 cf 01 9c 02 ef {&ÃÏ.?.ï
0050: 01 80 90 00 7b 24 00 4c .??.{$.L
0058: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........

I have windows xp and get the same event viewer message from time to time. have you figured out what causes this? thanks

I'm hoping someone with a valid answer will help us both.

http://www.osr.com/ddk/appendix/halmca_1okz.htm

* What do you think?

(I'd wager that is it... MS is not the only OS I spotted references to this online with... many Linux systems have the same error, & it may very well be the OS querying via API the BIOS & CPU features of Intel CPU's by default that you can turn on/off in your BIOS... I think it's the remote CPU identifier tracking # Intel has you can turn on/off at BIOS level this is trying & failing on. Sounds like that to me...)

Query "Machine Check" online, you will see what I mean... there is alot of material on it, & not only isolated to Windows rigs, you will see Linux results on it as well!



Now, if you have an AMD based CPU, then for sure it would probably not work & is trying to query that info & spitting back that err message/abend for that routine, afaik, AMD does not use or have that type of feature.

APK

P.S.=> That seemed to make some sense to me, but is it the REAL answer? I have NO idea, it is only a guess on my end here... apk

You're probably using a gray-box, not one from a specific manufacturer (i.e., Dell, Compaq, Gateway). I use gray-boxes and home-built systems myself, and this error occurs after the occasional system crash. Please check out this article from Microsoft http//support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;329284

This error is a Pentium chip error, and is most likely a hardware problem which is temporary in nature. My system crashes 1) usually when playing mp3's; 2) in addition, when there is an open socket to the internet using HTTP; and 3) when Outlook, or some other RPC-related program is in use. It is a very rare occurrance, but this error is most likely a memory or CPU error that you can't really do anything about.

JB

After upgrading win2k into winxp, I had several crashes (CPU still running but no more image, neither keyboard or mouse).
It's been difficult to reboot just after the crashes. In the log event I found this

Source application popup
ID event 26
Description Application popup    Machine Check Regs

Data
0000 00 00 08 00 03 00 6c 00 ......l.
0008 00 00 00 00 1a 00 00 40 .......@
0010 00 00 00 00 1a 00 00 40 .......@
0018 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0020 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0028 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........

My Processor is an AMD Athlon 850MHz, and every info I've seen regarding this message are for Pentium ... ?
Any help would be REALLY appreciate !
Thx

My system is AMD based as well.

I also have an AMD processor. This appears to be the common link for all of us so I contacted AMD tech support about it. here's their reply...

Hello Graeme,

Hello Graeme,Thank you for contacting AMD's Technical Service Center.
The MCE at start up could mean the OS is loading up an AMD specific HAL
such as 3DNOW! Optimizations, or Power Management. If this is not
causing any system issues, I would not be concerned.

Regards,
Ryan Gardner
CPU Specialist
AMD
TSC

I'm having the same problem and my system seems to be 100% stable. I have been trying to find out what this is for ages. I get six to eight reports in a row at cold boot (before it was every boot). The event is marked as 'information' so i don't think it's an error, more like an FYI.

Event Type: Information
Event Source: Application Popup
Event Category: None
Event ID: 26
Date: 7/05/2003
Time: 5:23:07 PM
User: N/A
Computer: **************
Description:
Application popup: : Machine Check: Regs

For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 00 00 08 00 03 00 6c 00 ......l.
0008: 00 00 00 00 1a 00 00 40 .......@
0010: 00 00 00 00 1a 00 00 40 .......@
0018: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0028: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........

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==
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Event Type: Information
Event Source: Application Popup
Event Category: None
Event ID: 26
Date: 7/05/2003
Time: 5:23:07 PM
User: N/A
Computer: **************
Description:
Application popup: : Machine Check:

For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 00 00 38 00 03 00 9c 00 ..8...?.
0008: 00 00 00 00 1a 00 00 40 .......@
0010: 03 00 00 00 1a 00 00 40 .......@
0018: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0028: 01 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 ........
0030: f8 e6 b6 81 69 14 c3 01 øæ¶?i.Ã.
0038: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0040: 03 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0048: ff fd 00 00 00 00 00 f6 ÿý.....ö
0050: df be ff ff 0f 00 00 00 ß¾ÿÿ....
0058: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........

System Details
[color=blue]Windows XP-SP1
AthlonXP2100 @ 10.5x166
1x512MB Kingmax 3200 DDR 400 @ 333 6-2-2-2.0
Epox 8rda+ Rev 1.1
Geforce 3 Ti 450 [Gainward] @ default 200/450
Antec TruePower 430 Watt PSU
80GB Seagate 7200rpm HDD
LiteOn LTR-48246S 48x24x48x CD-RW
LiteOn LTD-165H 16x48x DVD-ROM
nForce v2.03 mobo drivers
[/color]

Well, you're ALL AMD users, see my first post above... it just seems to make ALOT of sense!

(Personally, I wouldn't worry too much about it... I think it's what that article URL I put up above describes to a tee I'd wager)



APK

"Well, you're ALL AMD users, see my first post above... it just seems to make ALOT of sense! "

Well, I have the same problem, with an occasional recurring series of four "machine reg" messages in the Event Viewer. And guess what, I have an AMD processor too. XP freezes up - mouse and keyboard - and the only way out is the power switch. I'm going to take your advice and have a long hard look at the BIOS settings. What you say makes good sense.

Cheers,
Rick

"And guess what, I have an AMD processor too. XP freezes up - mouse and keyboard - and the only way out is the power switch. I'm going to take your advice and have a long hard look at the BIOS settings. What you say makes good sense.

Cheers,
Rick"

It makes some sense.... it's hitting AMD folks only & from the descriptions I read on it online, the OS is looking to communicate with Intel CPU specific features!



* At the very least, it seems like a GOOD/DECENT guess on my part @ least!

APK

P.S.=> Good Luck, & I hope you find an answer to it, or at least make it not kick your system into crashes etc. once you adjust the BIOS not to do the checks it does or reports it does for the OS to hook onto or try to... apk

"* At the very least, it seems like a GOOD/DECENT guess on my part @ least! "

A very good guess, I'd say. I can't see anything useful or obvious in my BIOS settings. I'm going to contact AMD. They must surely have discovered it themselves and found a fixaround.

Cheers
Rick

* At the very least, it seems like a GOOD/DECENT guess on my part @ least!

A very good guess, I'd say. I can't see anything useful or obvious in my BIOS settings. I'm going to contact AMD. They must surely have discovered it themselves and found a fixaround.

Cheers
Rick

I think it's more Operating System related, probably WBEM based stuff, than anything...

The OS does make calls to the BIOS occasionally, & Ms probably built stuff in like ProcessorID checks & also the Windows Based Enterprise Management scheme/system that deals with Intel's code for Pentium III's & UP that allowed for tracing which machine does what on a LAN (remember that big fiasco about that?).

For instance, in my motherboard's BIOS (Abit VP6 Via based SMP board), there is options to turn off this stuff in it... @ BIOS level. My guess is AMD boards don't account for that or have that option, but the OS nevertheless makes calls for that in some services it has & is causing this message in the EventLogs.

* Just a guess, but I'd wager it's spot-on, or near to it...



APK

"For instance, in my motherboard's BIOS (Abit VP6 Via based SMP board), there is options to turn off this stuff in it... @ BIOS level. "

Hi. What should I be looking for in the BIOS settings? I have a Mainboard K7S5A.

A few minutes ago, my machine shut down automatically and then rebooted without any keystokes from me. On reboot I checked the Event Viewer and it said "Minidump - Save Dump - System rebooted for bug check." Interesting.

BTW, all this hassle began when I installed the latest XP service pack. Never had any problems like this before. Which would tally with your guesses about it being OS related.

Best wishes,
Rick

"A few minutes ago, my machine shut down automatically and then rebooted without any keystokes from me. On reboot I checked the Event Viewer and it said "Minidump - Save Dump - System rebooted for bug check." Interesting."

That happens to me ONCE in awhile IF I REALLY CRANK UP MY OVERCLOCK up to 1.3mhz or beyond... P3's are just NOT great overclockers, & I settled in solid here @ 1140mhz... other tunings in RAM settings, AGP timings, PCI timings etc. make up for alot as well as tuning the OS all to high heck!

(Just like boosting a car for performance, you don't have to tear into the engine block to gain 30% & still can be 'streetable' basically. The mentality of street rodders & computer performance fiends to me @ least, seems AMAZINGLY similar!)

"BTW, all this hassle began when I installed the latest XP service pack. Never had any problems like this before. Which would tally with your guesses about it being OS related."

Lots of things are nutty in it, I go with hotfixes but NO SP #1... heard too many issues with it!

Especially with apps that call & mark access to LARGE amounts of RAM quickly, & a recent patch also wreaked havoc on this as well... was on front page recently in fact here @ this site, it's a GOOD spot for 'breaking news' like that in fact!

"Best wishes,
Rick"

Yes, you also... good luck, hope that 'hypothesis' of mine above helps, if not totally right, hope it points you in right direction.

Personally? I think it may be OS level stuff & a matter of turning off a service possibly, but which one??



APK

"Personally? I think it may be OS level stuff & a matter of turning off a service possibly, but which one?? "

I'll keep you posted. Whatever it turns out to be, it's guaranteed to reveal accumulated and concatenated computer and software design problems, and the inability of beta-testers to keep up.

I'll try turning off services one by one and see what happens.

Best wishes
Rick

Personally? I think it may be OS level stuff & a matter of turning off a service possibly, but which one??

I'll keep you posted. Whatever it turns out to be, it's guaranteed to reveal accumulated and concatenated computer and software design problems, and the inability of beta-testers to keep up.

I'll try turning off services one by one and see what happens.

Best wishes
Rick

Watch it there... on the services crank offs! I have a list in my URL's in my signature that can help you there, & tell you which ones to avoid cranking off!

(Seriously, don't do this indiscriminately without referencing a solid & reliable list regarding them.. that is, unless you know what you're doing here & if so, please disregard the warning by me!)

* In my signature, pay attention to the 'betuwe' links especially & search the term "Services" in them... lists are there, with links to MS iirc & other sites to second my descriptions & such!



APK

P.S.=> Yes, please... do keep us updated, be nice to learn a new thing or two on this type of error... seems alot of folks w/ AMD rigs are seeing this! apk

This is my favorite XP service tweak site. They also have Windows 2000 service tweaks.

Nothing to report. Microsoft tech support know nothing. The guy i spoke didn't really know what Event Viewer was... This sure does look like an XP+AMD thing because i had the same problem with my Athlon Tbird 1200. At least everything is stable*. I still wanna know what this event is though. Last time i checked EventID had nothing useful. Googleing showed some infomation and also lead me here no too long ago. If i find out anything new i'll let everyone here know.

*I've run Prime95 while surfing, gaming, playing music, burning CDs etc and left Prime95 running for ~20 hours. I left 3Dmark 2001se and Prime95 running for six hours with no problems. I ran Memtest86 set to All Tests (takes 8-10 hours). So yeah, i think everything's stable.

Hi everyone,

I am suffering from this problem for too long, that I used to live with it. Till I found this page.

It really makes sense to me, the reason may be a xp-amd conflict. The only problem at my computer is, I am using my tv card with a unsigned driver (cause conexant -manufacturer of the chip on tv card- closed before xp) So I remove the tv card for one week, and give a new clean install on this damn computer. Crashes and restarts are decreased %20. But they are still there.

So what I am saying is, I wish Gates dies with an intel cpu stucked in his as*. I wish everyone uses a lot more copy windows, cause these ******s don't deserve a damn penny.
and I wish I was a barking dog, which makes my life a lot easier from now..

So guys, give it up. You can not fight with microsoft. Go buy a new intel cpu.

regards.

Originally posted by memlafeder:

"Hi everyone,"

Hi!

Originally posted by memlafeder:

"I am suffering from this problem for too long, that I used to live with it. Till I found this page."

LOL, "we are the cure"...

Originally posted by memlafeder:

"It really makes sense to me, the reason may be a xp-amd conflict."

It does... from what I read up on online about it elsewhere in the URL I posted above? It makes sense!

Originally posted by memlafeder:

"So what I am saying is, I wish Gates dies with an intel cpu stucked in his as*. I wish everyone uses a lot more copy windows, cause these ******s don't deserve a damn penny. and I wish I was a barking dog, which makes my life a lot easier from now..

So guys, give it up. You can not fight with microsoft. Go buy a new intel cpu.

regards."

Ah, I am going to use my "ESP" here & take a guess:

If you play darts? I'd bet "King Billy" is on your dartboard!



* I dunno, I think Microsoft's Windows NT-based Os' are the BEST thing since sliced bread out there... they work with an incredible array of hardware & have software for them to NO end!

(So, until something better comes along? I like it... )

APK

P.S.=> Intel CPU man here, & because of compatibility... they're a std. (I have owned AMD before though, good stuff too) alot like how "Creative Labs" is for soundcards... generally, with those? You can't go TOO far wrong imo... apk

http://forums.amd.com/index.php?showtopic=28514 <--- has some info
http://forums.viaarena.com/messageview.cfm?catid=25&threadid=63989&enterthread=y <--- talks about via 4in1 chipset drivers caused that problem.
http://www.multi-hardware.com/MHBB/mess.php3?f=1&t=1237&conf=multi <--- says it is based on power fluctations


Who knows. Anyway, this happens on my machine (amd 3200+). BUT. I do not have any lockups, nor do I have any other system problems. I am running a Gigabyte Main board, using a via chipset.

So, this is either a power issue or a VIA issue. We can rule out the VIA issue if others on this forum say they don't have the VIA chipset. Though, one user on the VIA board said that using older drivers fixed his issue.

We can rule out the power issue, if we know for a fact that we have a 400+ watt power supply and that we are getting clean power to our system. Yes, clean power. Having dirty power running to your system can cause problems.

I personnaly have had no issues. But, if others are having problems, it could be almost anything. Perhaps, I'll install the latest and greatest via drivers and see what happens. THough, my event log entry appears about once a week.