Hard freeze with win2000
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My computer seems to freeze at random times with no error log record. NT does not even know that something has happened. Mouse and keyboard stop responding. power off is the only fix...
sd-11 athlon 600
256 ram
geforce
mx300
sd-11 athlon 600
256 ram
geforce
mx300
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I had the same problem.
I posted this message on www.k7m.com and it helped alot of ASUS K7M owners (including me)
If you got a ASUS K7M MB with an Athlon processor and any kind of Nvidia graphicboard, do like this.
Install the Nvidia Reference 3.78 drivers then reboot into safe mode and copy nv4_mini.sys from the Nvidia 3.66 reference driver set to their %system_root%\system32\drivers.
So you need these files:
NV4_mini.sys ver 3.66
NV4_Disp.Dll ver 3.78
NVoglnt.Dll ver 3.78
NYInstNT.dll ver 3.78
Anyhow. You can find the drivers at http://www.reactorcritical.com/
/DjStef
I posted this message on www.k7m.com and it helped alot of ASUS K7M owners (including me)
If you got a ASUS K7M MB with an Athlon processor and any kind of Nvidia graphicboard, do like this.
Install the Nvidia Reference 3.78 drivers then reboot into safe mode and copy nv4_mini.sys from the Nvidia 3.66 reference driver set to their %system_root%\system32\drivers.
So you need these files:
NV4_mini.sys ver 3.66
NV4_Disp.Dll ver 3.78
NVoglnt.Dll ver 3.78
NYInstNT.dll ver 3.78
Anyhow. You can find the drivers at http://www.reactorcritical.com/
/DjStef
OP
i made the switch mentioned above and i am happy to see i have not had any freezes so far... I will get it another 48 hours before i give it the thumbs up, i have never gottem my machine to last that long since w2k was installed... *fingers crossed*
I'm going to try the fix for the Asus SMP m/b listed on the front page of this site. Can anyone with one of these boards who has already done this fix please post a reply on the end result (Are the freezes really gone?)
Thanks
Thanks
thanx for your post,
after researching the problem a bit more, i believe the fix has todo with setting the default agp speed to 1x - as there seem to be compatibility / stability problems with athlon mobo´s and geforce chips running faster than agpx1. Just read a review of the asus K7V 133fsb, and the problems seem to have been ironed out as you can run the geforce with agp x4 no problemo. Also, from what i understand, all pre 378 drivers set the agp speed to 1x for athlon´s by default, hence no stability problems...
cheers, danny.
after researching the problem a bit more, i believe the fix has todo with setting the default agp speed to 1x - as there seem to be compatibility / stability problems with athlon mobo´s and geforce chips running faster than agpx1. Just read a review of the asus K7V 133fsb, and the problems seem to have been ironed out as you can run the geforce with agp x4 no problemo. Also, from what i understand, all pre 378 drivers set the agp speed to 1x for athlon´s by default, hence no stability problems...
cheers, danny.
I have Abit BP6 and Matrox G400, it also freeze randomly, suspect something to do with too much multitasking, it seems switching performance to background in control panel helps reduce lock ups.
OP
WEll i have been up for 3 days now without a single problem. I promised myself i wouldnt cry.... anyway, thanks for the suggestion with swapping out that SYS file. Since i did it everyting has been perfect. Hard to believe that the video drivers were causing all those problems.
Hello everyone. I want yall to do this. Just for fun. Run your machines with the new drivers and 64 MB of ram. I am almost 99% positive you will NOT crash. Just to test. then swap it for that hunk of 128/256 whatever your poison is and watch the puter freeze. It happened to me consistantly. 64mb no probs. 128/256/384 = mucho crashes.
A650 on a MSI K7Pro
Guillemot Geforce SDR
Win2k pro
256MB crucial pc133
2x13.6 7200 Raid 0
and all the other stuff.
A650 on a MSI K7Pro
Guillemot Geforce SDR
Win2k pro
256MB crucial pc133
2x13.6 7200 Raid 0
and all the other stuff.
i was having a lot of problems with win 2000 freezing randomly and i finally figured out the cause was faulty memory, maybe this is a problem for some of you, i have replaced the faulity ram and now my computer is working perfectly, i was finding that i could run win 98 and it wouldnt crash at all with the faulty memory, but i guess thats probably because win 98 doesnt use memory as much as win 2000
No Geforce, no AMD, no VIA, just plain old system noted below...
Random lockups seem to happen when online, with IE5 open, and some sort of multimedia going on (mp3, mpg, etc). Maybe a download too on occasion...
Pretty infrequent however, maybe 2-3 a week with moderate daily usage. Mouse and keyboard are gone, other than that, system seems undisturbed (mp3/mpg keeps playing, etc).
Weird.
Random lockups seem to happen when online, with IE5 open, and some sort of multimedia going on (mp3, mpg, etc). Maybe a download too on occasion...
Pretty infrequent however, maybe 2-3 a week with moderate daily usage. Mouse and keyboard are gone, other than that, system seems undisturbed (mp3/mpg keeps playing, etc).
Weird.
damn sig....
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-AciD
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Hardware:
BP6 running QQ Beta BIOS
Dual Celeron 366 @ 566MHZ
128MB Samsung -GL
IBM UDMA66 13.6g
WDC UDMA33 5.1g
Toshiba 32x
OTI Socrates 2x2x6x
V3-2000-AGP clocked @ 166
SB AWE64 Value
Hayes V90 Int. Spk Phone
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Software:
Win2K Pro Retail (2195)
Office 2000 Premium
NA ViruScan NT 4.03a
Mobo Monitor 4.10
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-AciD
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Hardware:
BP6 running QQ Beta BIOS
Dual Celeron 366 @ 566MHZ
128MB Samsung -GL
IBM UDMA66 13.6g
WDC UDMA33 5.1g
Toshiba 32x
OTI Socrates 2x2x6x
V3-2000-AGP clocked @ 166
SB AWE64 Value
Hayes V90 Int. Spk Phone
>-----------------------<
Software:
Win2K Pro Retail (2195)
Office 2000 Premium
NA ViruScan NT 4.03a
Mobo Monitor 4.10
I can also report lockups, but have noticed they only happen when either 3d application or sonique play MP3.
3d application, every 3d game and sonique locks up computer/blue screen.
G400
asus p2d-ds (late revision, no need for move resistor)
2x p3 500
win2k pro retail
Im my case matrox has report it is graphics card drivers not stable on multitasking (2x cpu) environment.
3d application, every 3d game and sonique locks up computer/blue screen.
G400
asus p2d-ds (late revision, no need for move resistor)
2x p3 500
win2k pro retail
Im my case matrox has report it is graphics card drivers not stable on multitasking (2x cpu) environment.
ACID,
I had a cel 433 OVCLK to 540 and my Banshee card clocked to 120. I was having all kinds of random freezes and lock-ups. I clocked my Processor back a bit and made sure I had 2.5V core volts and it cleared all the problems up. I would try clocking your proceesor down a bit.
I had a cel 433 OVCLK to 540 and my Banshee card clocked to 120. I was having all kinds of random freezes and lock-ups. I clocked my Processor back a bit and made sure I had 2.5V core volts and it cleared all the problems up. I would try clocking your proceesor down a bit.
I made a long post further down the board about the wierd hangups I've been having... does this sound familiar to anyone? It's not my video drivers, unless every Microsoft and Nvidia released video drivers since Beta 2 or so are buggy, since I've had this problem since then.
Ning
Ning
Any more info on this problem? Solutions?
Considering the amount of people experiencing this problem, and the varied hardware mentioned in all these posts, I find it difficult to believe this is anything other than a Win2k issue.
Now, I'm not a Win2k hater by any means, but these lock-ups are a real pain in the @ss.
They happen a couple times a night, and don't seem to be related to any particular program that I can tell.
I have had it happen a few times in IE5 when viewing a .mpg or playing an .mp3 or even just surfing, and I have had it happen numerous times in UT as well.
Video and audio keep on playing away in all cases, but mouse and keyboard become inactive and the only correction is to reset the system.
I have swapped out both mouse and keyboard (still PS2 flavor, and I didn't think they were the problem, but it was an easy test to eliminate one possible cause) to no avail. Anybody having this problem using a USB mouse/kb?
I also (on separate iterations)disabled active desktop, reinstalled Windows over itself, and unplugged and replugged in the mouse and keyboard after the freeze...no joy.
Nothing like being in a kick-@ss game of UT online, fraggin' hardcore and <poof>, I need to reboot my system.
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!
Quote:Originally posted by KnYnE:My computer seems to freeze at random times with no error log record. NT does not even know that something has happened. Mouse and keyboard stop responding. power off is the only fix...
sd-11 athlon 600
256 ram
geforce
mx300
------------------
-AciD
>-----------------------<
Hardware:
BP6 running QQ Beta BIOS
Dual Celeron 366 @ 566MHZ
128MB Samsung -GL
IBM UDMA66 13.6g
WDC UDMA33 5.1g
Toshiba 32x
OTI Socrates 2x2x6x
V3-2000-AGP clocked @ 166
SB AWE64 Value
Kingston PCI 10/100 NIC
>-----------------------<
Software:
Win2K Pro Retail (2195)
Office 2000 Premium
NA ViruScan NT 4.03a
Mobo Monitor 4.10
[This message has been edited by acidspray (edited 06 April 2000).]
Considering the amount of people experiencing this problem, and the varied hardware mentioned in all these posts, I find it difficult to believe this is anything other than a Win2k issue.
Now, I'm not a Win2k hater by any means, but these lock-ups are a real pain in the @ss.
They happen a couple times a night, and don't seem to be related to any particular program that I can tell.
I have had it happen a few times in IE5 when viewing a .mpg or playing an .mp3 or even just surfing, and I have had it happen numerous times in UT as well.
Video and audio keep on playing away in all cases, but mouse and keyboard become inactive and the only correction is to reset the system.
I have swapped out both mouse and keyboard (still PS2 flavor, and I didn't think they were the problem, but it was an easy test to eliminate one possible cause) to no avail. Anybody having this problem using a USB mouse/kb?
I also (on separate iterations)disabled active desktop, reinstalled Windows over itself, and unplugged and replugged in the mouse and keyboard after the freeze...no joy.
Nothing like being in a kick-@ss game of UT online, fraggin' hardcore and <poof>, I need to reboot my system.
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!
Quote:Originally posted by KnYnE:My computer seems to freeze at random times with no error log record. NT does not even know that something has happened. Mouse and keyboard stop responding. power off is the only fix...
sd-11 athlon 600
256 ram
geforce
mx300
------------------
-AciD
>-----------------------<
Hardware:
BP6 running QQ Beta BIOS
Dual Celeron 366 @ 566MHZ
128MB Samsung -GL
IBM UDMA66 13.6g
WDC UDMA33 5.1g
Toshiba 32x
OTI Socrates 2x2x6x
V3-2000-AGP clocked @ 166
SB AWE64 Value
Kingston PCI 10/100 NIC
>-----------------------<
Software:
Win2K Pro Retail (2195)
Office 2000 Premium
NA ViruScan NT 4.03a
Mobo Monitor 4.10
[This message has been edited by acidspray (edited 06 April 2000).]
I think this is a problem with graphic card drivers. Prior to Nvidia's 3.81 drivers all was well, now I get random freezes and the blue screen of death saying
Stop error occurred - Bad_Pool_Caller
This is a paging fault error which is probably due to timing issues with the cards drivers.
Another thought is have any of you installed or tried to install Direct CD as this had enormous repercussions on my system....?
Stop error occurred - Bad_Pool_Caller
This is a paging fault error which is probably due to timing issues with the cards drivers.
Another thought is have any of you installed or tried to install Direct CD as this had enormous repercussions on my system....?
I had hangups that ceased when removing dimms...With a 256 dimm and two 128 dimms, win2k would do total freezes...I would have to reboot...No nvidia drivers have made my system crash yet, but the dimms were mixed brands...they wld run fine on 98, but crash in 2k...win2k might just be more sensitive to mixed ram...I can use either to 256 or the two 128's (128's are the same brand)
I do not know the solution of this odd problem but i'm convinced it's due to video drivers as it was said previously.
I get this problem as soon as i had installed the ATI driver for my fury. Since i removed it, any more problem.....
May be there is a certification from microsoft constructor do not respect and it's the reason of the problem ! I really don't know
I get this problem as soon as i had installed the ATI driver for my fury. Since i removed it, any more problem.....
May be there is a certification from microsoft constructor do not respect and it's the reason of the problem ! I really don't know
I would get the hard freeze also and i found that it was related to video drivers.I'd run my desktop in 32-bits and that was the cause.
I'm using 3dfx Voodoo3 3000 agp card.Once i set my desktop to 16-bits everything seems to be fine now.Hope this helps.
[This message has been edited by PLBlaze (edited 14 April 2000).]
I'm using 3dfx Voodoo3 3000 agp card.Once i set my desktop to 16-bits everything seems to be fine now.Hope this helps.
[This message has been edited by PLBlaze (edited 14 April 2000).]
For those who got the random keyboard+mouse lock, (unable to use keyboard+mouse while program still running) if you are overclocking, up the voltage or slow down a bit. W2K is not as overclocking friendly as Win98. I was able to run win98 stable but have to up the voltage to 2.2-2.3v to run w2k stable otherwise i will get the above random lock.
After numerous re-installs and a host of other changes...I seem to have gotten rid of those kb/mouse lockups.
I did two things of substance, pretty sure the later one did it.
Switched audio cards from AWE64 ISA to Monster MX300
Switched HD's/CD-ROMs around such that everything is a master (4 devices, 2 UDMA66 connectors, 2 UDMA33 connectors ie primary master and secondary master on UDMA66 and primary master and secondary master on UDMA33)
I dunno, but I'm glad they are gone.
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-AciD
>-----------------------<
Hardware:
BP6 running QQ Beta BIOS
HPT 366 1.231 Beta UDMA66
Dual Celeron 366 @ 566MHZ
128MB Samsung -GL
IBM UDMA66 13.6g
WDC UDMA33 5.1g
Toshiba 32x
OTI Socrates 2x2x6x
V3-2000-AGP clocked @ 166
SB AWE64 Value
Kingston PCI 10/100 NIC
>-----------------------<
Software:
Win2K Pro Retail (2195)
Office 2000 Premium
NA ViruScan NT 4.03a
Mobo Monitor 4.10
I did two things of substance, pretty sure the later one did it.
Switched audio cards from AWE64 ISA to Monster MX300
Switched HD's/CD-ROMs around such that everything is a master (4 devices, 2 UDMA66 connectors, 2 UDMA33 connectors ie primary master and secondary master on UDMA66 and primary master and secondary master on UDMA33)
I dunno, but I'm glad they are gone.
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-AciD
>-----------------------<
Hardware:
BP6 running QQ Beta BIOS
HPT 366 1.231 Beta UDMA66
Dual Celeron 366 @ 566MHZ
128MB Samsung -GL
IBM UDMA66 13.6g
WDC UDMA33 5.1g
Toshiba 32x
OTI Socrates 2x2x6x
V3-2000-AGP clocked @ 166
SB AWE64 Value
Kingston PCI 10/100 NIC
>-----------------------<
Software:
Win2K Pro Retail (2195)
Office 2000 Premium
NA ViruScan NT 4.03a
Mobo Monitor 4.10
