Sticky Key's in W2K Poll Survey!!! Please read!!!!

This is a discussion about Sticky Key's in W2K Poll Survey!!! Please read!!!! in the Windows Games category; To all those that read this post, Please tell me which games you run and whether or not you have sticky Key's in them and What type of mouse your using. Thanks in advance to all that reply!!!! Have a theory about the Sticky Key's Problem, but not sure about it unless I get this survey done so please Help out!!!! Da ...

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To all those that read this post, Please tell me which games you run and whether or not you have sticky Key's in them and What type of mouse your using.
 
Thanks in advance to all that reply!!!!
 
Have a theory about the Sticky Key's Problem, but not sure about it unless I get this survey done so please Help out!!!!
 
 
 
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Well I installed Shogo, installed the latest patch and fired her up at 1024 x 768 16 bit highest detail. Ran smooth as glass literally. Only wierd things i notice is that I set my right mouse button to move me forward. well when i hold it down and then let go, i keep going very very fast and i have to click it once or twice to stop. Also everything seems to be running faster time wise in the game. like people walk alot faster, the train at the beginning moves faster. Any ideas?
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oh by the was my mouse is a Microsoft Intellimouse 1.1a ps/2. I am not running any of the intellimouse software (should I? ) I am just using the drivers that win2k installed.

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BTW, I thought I might just add that I had the mouse problem before I installed Mouseware 9.00 on my Logitech USB Mouseman. So maybe we can count out the new drivers as being a problem?
 
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Well here is an update from myself for those of you who have been keeping track of this thread. I did a fresh install of just W2K only with no other drivers loaded except the ones W2K uses, I found that I still had the sticky key's problem. I also noticed that after the install last night of W2K that after I got up in the morning to change some settings on W2K that for no apparent reason that my keyboard no longer worked. I found that the sticky's key's problem is more then just a problem. Since my first post I went to using a Logitech Wingman Gaming Mouse(USB) and I still have the sticky key's in games. Also my theory didn't work out as I had thought it would. Also I want to say thanks to DosFreak for keeping the list updated. Also if anyone knows anyone or has another mouse laying around there house that is not a Logitech mouse. Please do me a favor and hook it up to your computer and play a game that you know you have had the sticky keys in. The reason for this is to try and set the record straight that is doesn't matter what kind of Mouse it it that you use and it is not the mouse that is causing the problem, and that the problem lies else where and that I ask you to do this since I saw another post on this board from someone saying that we were having this problem because we were all using(for the most part) Logitech Mice and that(for the most part) they were all PS2 Mice. But since this poll I have noticed that we all not all using Logitech PS2 mice and not all of them are PS2. So that is why I asked someone to use a differnet mouse other then Logitech and a Microsoft Mouse.
 
Was curious if anyone has tried replacing some of the DX files that W2K installs with some of the drivers from W98(without running the install program to install them)to see if maybe that would fix the problem. Only reason for this is cause I sae a differnet Post where that the software company that made Rouge Spear said that it was a DX problem.
 
Sorry about the post being so long and again keep the posts coming. Just be sure to metion which games and what type of mouse and whether the mouse is serial or PS2.
 
Also DosFreak Thanks for your help in keeping the list updated for me. Please Keep up the good work.
 
When I get a total of 30 different poeple with this problem I will compile the list and start sending it off to the Game companies and to MS themselves!!!!
 
Again thanks to all!!!
 
 
 
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The only games I've had sticky key problems with so far are Alien Vs. Predator and Rogue Spear. Oddly enough Rainbow6 runs fine.
 
The problem occurs using a Microsoft wheel mouse USB, and with a Logitech wheel mouse PS/2. I've tried Microsoft's latest USB internet keyboard, and the Microsoft PS/2 Internet keyboard. Any combination of these still suffers from sticky keys in the above games.
 
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I have problems with:
Crusaders Of Might & Magic
NOX
 
Microsoft Intelli mouse (default driver) (PS/2)
QDI Brilance B1S,
Celeron 366@550
128MB RAM
V3 3000
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Sometimes when I first go into Quake 3, the keyboard is dead, but the mouse isn't. After I move the move, the keyboard then works. This happens only once in a while.
 
After repeatedly hitting some keys, the stickyfingers popup came up, I disabled it, and it doesn't come up anymore, no matter how many times I hit the keys. =)
 
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i've got a microsoft intellimouse (ps/2) and have sticky keys problems in rogue spear ...
 
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Well, I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one that had this problem, I first posted this problem here last month to no avail... well hope you have more luck.
My info:
 
Celeron 466
128MB Ram
SB Live! Value
16mb Riva TnT
Logitech wheel mouse (PS/2)
 
Sticky buttons problem with Rogue Spear.

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I have the sticky keys problem too. I have it occasionally in Everquest, but nearly constantly in Aliens vs Predator. My keyboard is the Microsoft Internet Keyboard (ps2) and my mouse is the Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer (usb).
 
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Ok, here goes: I've got a PS/2 Intellimouse inputing at 100Hz with a PS/2 IBM Preferred keyboard. When I first installed 2k final about three months ago I had tons of sticky key problems with both my mouse and keyboard in UT, TR4, etc. For some reason OpenGL wouldn't work at all (even the screensavers), so I finally just reinstalled it about three weeks ago. Now OpenGL works (I've got a TNT using the 3.78 drivers) and all the controller problems have gone away! At the same time I upped my keyboard input rate to 16hz from the default 8hz so that might be what fixed the keyboard stickiness. I've tried playing Half-Life, UT, Quake3, Tomb Raider 3 & 4, all of which sucked before I reinstalled.
 
I've got a Celeron 450, Abit BF6, & 192MB RAM
 
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STICKY KEY & MICE PROBLEMS
 
Mice Listing V3.0
 
 
LOGITECH MICE
 
APV_SAV - Logitech Wheel Mouse (PS/2)
ROBOR - Logitech Trackman Marble No Wheel(PS/2)
FROGMASTER - Logitech Cordless desktop(PS/2)
Nite- Logitech Wheel Mouse(PS/2)
Cheesehead- Logitech Wheel Mouse(PS/2)
EVIL HOMER - Logitech MouseMan Wheel(USB)
GENiUS - Logitech Pilot Mouse(Serial)
 
 
MICROSOFT MICE
 
Ekstreme - Microsoft Intellimouse(PS/2)
RUDY - Microsoft Intellimouse(PS/2)
pr-man- Microsoft Intellimouse(PS/2)
Wilk- Microsoft Intellimouse(PS/2)
Candlestick-Microsoft Intellimouse(PS/2)
Cheesehead- Microsoft Wheel Mouse(USB)
Sensei- Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer(USB)
- IGOR - - Microsoft Mouse(Serial)
 
INCUBUS - Microsoft Intellimouse Pro
Could you please state how you have it connected...PS/2, Serial?
 
 
No problems
 
DOSFREAK - Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer (USB)
Spong - Intellimouse Explorer (USB)
Jester-Microsoft Intellimouse (PS/2)
 
I know I know...Where are the Keyboard listings? Hehhe..I'm lazy..Their coming soon....
 
 
For those of you that can switch your Mice from USB to PS/2 or PS/2 to USB please do so.
If you can't do that with your existing mouse then could you please find an older mouse
and try to use that please?

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Well this may be so DosFreak but I do appreciate the good work your doing on keeping the list updated for me. So please contiue the good effort.
 
Going to try another theory back in about an hour to tell you how it all went.
 
 
 
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Okay, I plugged in my Mouseman USB via its PS/2 adapter, but I can't really report any changes, as I totally lost the use of my mouse. This was after two reboots too.
 
Put it back in the USB port and it all worked again...
 
So, thats all I can report.
 
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OK. There seem to be a couple of common threads here:
 
1. Accelerated PS/2 sample rates or USB sample rates cause problems in some games. This may be due to certain assumptions made by the developers of said games about how many samples/sec they're getting.
Has anyone tried removing the sample rate customizations and retesting?
 
2. Rogue Spear and AVP appear to consistently have problems with this, where many other games do not...
Doesn't that suggest a problem more with the game than the underlying OS? Have Red Storm or Acclaim announced that they've reproduced the issue and can or can't fix it, or that it's a straight OS issue that somehow 99% of other game developers managed to avoid?
 
I think the answer would be along the lines of "it wasn't designed for NT" so the thread handling may be causing a problem - hence the fix of setting the priority to "background applications" and seeing an improvement.
 
Just my $0.02.

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hrrm got to this a bit late, but I have 0 sticky key problems with anything in win2k .. err now that i have said that will probably cause all sorts of havoc.. anyway My games:
Unreal Tournament
Q3 Arena
Asherons Call (major video issues with 3.78 nvidia drivers cured by 3.81 WOOHOO)
Need For Speed 4
 
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promise ultra 66 wd 20.4 maxtor 13.6
HP Cdwriter 8100i
MS Natural Keyboard Pro (USB) detected as a standard keyboard but intellitype installed and all buttons function as expected)
Logitech Trackman Marble FX (logitech 9.0 drivers)
 
A random thought are the keys actually getting stuck? or is some background process consuming nearly 100% cpu time? i know it sounds silly but indexing service and some others can cause these types of "spikes" (dont ask me why background processes are thinking they should move into "idle mode" usage patterns .. unless its due to no desktop interaction for X amount of time?)
 
sorry for the long ramble but my brother and I (identical setups) play unreal tourn and q3 here for hours at a time and never have any stickiness issues, but we generally kill most processes unrelated to gaming before we play! will try it without killin em and see how it goes again sorry for long post and spouting off about something I am probably totally wrong about!
 
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I think I saw in another post some time ago that someone said that the company that produced Rogue Spear said that is was a DirectX problem. Since there is nothing wrong with NT's DirectX, I guess we'll have to wait for a patch for the game.

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Okay, I cleared some background services, such as Indexing which weren't being used, and tried again... Oh look, no change, so thats another solution we forget.
 
I notice that a lot of people say they have problems with AvP, Rogue Spear, UT, and Q3A.
 
I can't say I've had any problems relating to any of these games, they all run quite smoothly, considering they're not designed for this O/S.
 
One other thing DosFreak... I think you might be holding your breath for Redstorm to release a patch for Rogue Spear. Seeing it was designed to run under 95/98, if it ain't broken, then they won't fix it, exactly the same response from EA who I have tangled with over getting Fifa 2000 to work, and even then they said a load of bollox anyway. (Specifically that its drivers and not copy protection which is at fault, but thats another story)
 
I think it may just be a situation where there is no common reason, and therefore no common fix in sight.
 
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The only problems I've had so far is in Aliens vs. Predator. The mouse buttons either respond slowly or stick.
 
I'm running on a K6-III 450 with 128 MB
Viper V770 Ultra
Logitech USB wheel mouse

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Okay me
MS intellimouse-optical
Logitech Cordless Keyboard(w/those quick access keys)
AMDk63-400 on a Epox MVP3g-m
128 PC133 ram
20GB IBM HD
Mx300
V3 2000 AGP
 
I have no problems with Tribes(someone said they did)
I do have problems with my keyboard not responding to mapped keys when in MW3. I hit Alt-Tab or C-A-D and go back into the game and it's fine..length of time before it happens again varies.

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To elaborate on my previous...
 
With both the USB Intellimouse and PS/2 Logitech I can recreate the problem very easily in Rogue Spear or AvP without even touching the keyboard. I've always set the mouse2 button as 'move forward'. If I'm walking forward and turn with the mouse left or right, it will stick in the 'walk forward' position until I click the mouse2 button again. Food for thought.