Windows 2000 FIX, IS THIS TRUE

This is a discussion about Windows 2000 FIX, IS THIS TRUE in the Windows Hardware category; I was told by someone that they fixed the game problems with Windows 2000, by deleting the windows directory, deleteing msdos. sys and all of those that are in C:\ then install DOS, then immediately install Windows 2000 after that.

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I was told by someone that they fixed the game problems with Windows 2000, by deleting the windows directory, deleteing msdos.sys and all of those that are in C:\
then install DOS, then immediately install Windows 2000 after that. Now, i wanted to proof that, and yes, no games have errors now, but i don't know if it's because of the dos/windows installs

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and now those games run?
 
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i don't know, i have yet to try it, but it has worked for 3 of my friends so far. Another unsolved mystery i guess

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The most likely reason is because they did a clean install of Windows 2000, cleaning out all the remnants of hacked video card and sound card drivers, and having Win2k in a pristine state allowed the games to run the way they should. There was absolutely NO magic associated with the DOS install. It was a matter of cleaning up the Windows 2000 install.
 
 
 
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First, on my W2k machines there are no Windows dir's or msdos.sys to delete, BECAUSE IT'S NT, not windows 9x.
 
Second, probably what made it work is the reinstall of W2k. A reinstall can do wonders to a messed up machine.
 
Third, and this ones a guess, any DOS files that try to run under any other OS should give an "incorrect version" error.

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Nice try, but wrong again. I freshed installed Windows 2000 on his machine, without putting DOS on and the games didn't work. Doing the same again with the DOS first, then windows 2000. It worked. We tried fresh installing windows 2000 about 5 times and nothing helped. We then did the DOS and then Windows 2000 install and it worked. Still, it looks like i'm winning the battle here. It all points to the proof

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Geesh...I'm going to put up with this discussion even if it pains me.
1st list what software did not work and did work with JUST the 2000 installation.
2nd list what software NOW works with Dos installed first and then 2000.
Also tell us EXACTLY how you installed the OS'S on your computer.

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Ok, i had no operating system on the computer. I installed Windows 2000 pro on the computer. GTA 2, ZSNES and RPGMaker 95 didn't work. We then deleted Windows 2000, put DOS on and then Windows 2000 again. Those above games now worked.

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Can you be more specific on how they didn't work? did you get any errors?
 
I don't know about the other games, but i know that zsnes requires the dos4gw.exe loader to run. maybe the version of dos you installed had that included?
 
Anyway, if that is the case, then it is not necessary to install dos, but just get the dos4gw.exe file and put it in the directory with the game.

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jdulmage,
 
First of all i am pretty sure I know a little more about this operating system then you considering I work for MS on the Win2k Professional Setup team. MS Dos cannot even exist on a NTFS5 partition (fat32 yes). So this is not an option for most ppl since we run on NTFS. Every game I have ever tried to run on my box runs, I even got Space Quest (old ass DOS game) to run on my box.

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MSGuy - hold on bucko - jdulmage has been working with computers since 1992. He is currently one of the best computer students in his whole student. He has made thousands of dollars doing computer stuff. He has experienced so many problems and solutions far more then anyone of you will see in your whole life. So I think he knows what he's talking about.
 
ROTFLMAO!!!!!!
 
 
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I wonder if he can give advice regarding the deployment of my Win2K Advanced Server cluster???
 
What is the minimum number of nodes I should have for SQL-7 failover and still maintain 99.99% uptime, including allowed outages for maintenence, etc?
 
What should I do about upstream planning, so that I have at least 20Mbps avaiable at any given time?
 
What about Active Directory deployment? Any insights?
 
Thousands of dollars since 1992. I am in awe. Ooooohhh.
 
Sorry, couldn't resist. I know I am an evil, evil person.

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ROTFLMAO
 
You are evil!
 
 
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92% of the things we worry about don't happen - but the other 8% DO!
 
PIII 450@504
Soltek SL67B Mobo with 128 mb pc100
20 gig Quantum KX 8 gig Quantum CR
SBlive Value
Voodooo3 3000 AGP
... and a bunch of USB Stuff
Windows 2000 Pro Retail

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Thanks for the laughs. This stuff is too funny.
 
I may be way off here... but at the MS roadshow, I remember the tech stateing that win2000 is dummy proof. You are not allowed to delete system files and the like off your drive.

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Anyone ever see that movie with Tom Arnold called "The Stupids"? Remember the part where they produced a fatal error by crashing a computer by sticking a photo in the B floppy drive. Then they phoned their dad and told him to look out for the drive bee. Sure enough, one bee flies into his car while he is driving and he crashes his car thinking that the bee would be fatal.
 
This has nothing really to do with this thread. I just wanted to add it.

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I dunno understand what this is all about.
All my antique DOS games run perfectly under W2K, without any exotic tweak or install!
Just for fun I just played Corridor 7 (a doomlike fps crap for grannies). It launches its dos extender and runs like a charm, without sound of course.
Next I try Flight Unlimited 1 for dos and come back to this thread to report. I can swear if this one works, anything will work under W2K. Those who know know what I mean

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I'm almost tempted to try this magical DOS remedy just for kicks

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I should actually try some of your suggestions and stuff before deleting all of my windows files and stuff. I don't even know if it works, but some how it did. How hard is that to understand?? NO DOS, no games. With DOS, games. Very simple, i could tell a 5 year old that and he would understand that, may not have a solution, but he would get it. Dispite the fact that all of you that are bad mouthing me obviously have no lives, cause you spend your team *****ing on one message post, you could have helped 10 others within this time. I'm only replying, cause your talking to me badly. So, i'll try your suggestion, if it doesn't work, i'll try mine, if that still doesn't work, then i'm stuck with Windows 2000 and i'll dual boot the system. Thanks though

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I heard someone mention that DOS can not exist on an NTFS partition. Untrue DOS can exist on a NTFS partition. Install 2000, make an NTFS partition, copy DOS disks or a dos directory to your NTFS partition. There ya go! Duh...commonsense.

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finally, someone disagreeds with someone else, besides me

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Man you guys got to cut it out. I laughed so hard I fell out of my chair, people are looking at me now.
 
 
Yes you can technically have DOS files on an NTFS partition but try to access them. DOS will not recognize an NTFS partition.