3.69 and 3.75 Drivers Lock
This is a discussion about 3.69 and 3.75 Drivers Lock in the Windows Hardware category; For some reason, if I use either the 3. 69 or the 3. 75 drivers, I get random lockups just sitting at the desktop. I can use 3. 66 all night long and it will never ever lock. Is anyone else having these problems and if so, how'd you fix it? BTW, my specs are: AMD Athlon 650 Gigabyte 7IX 160 MB RAM Riva TNT2 Ultra ( ...
For some reason, if I use either the 3.69 or the 3.75 drivers, I get random lockups just sitting at the desktop. I can use 3.66 all night long and it will never ever lock. Is anyone else having these problems and if so, how'd you fix it? BTW, my specs are:
AMD Athlon 650
Gigabyte 7IX
160 MB RAM
Riva TNT2 Ultra (Xentor 32)
Pete
AMD Athlon 650
Gigabyte 7IX
160 MB RAM
Riva TNT2 Ultra (Xentor 32)
Pete
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with the same drivers Unreal Tournament reboots my machine even in software mode
No Prob with 3.66
Specs:
PIII 450
SE440BX2 Mobo (intel)
CL GEFORCE256 SDR
WIN2K 2195 OEM
128MB
SB Live OEM
No Prob with 3.66
Specs:
PIII 450
SE440BX2 Mobo (intel)
CL GEFORCE256 SDR
WIN2K 2195 OEM
128MB
SB Live OEM
I have also had problems with the new drivers. After many, many different tries of changing cards and such, I finally traced the prob back to my AGP. Basically it seems that the VIA AGP driver that comes with W2K doesn't work fully. The reason those earlier drivers work is because they don't enable AGP optimizations. Although I have found that the openGL driver with the latest release works much better. (you can copy the file over the other in the system32 folder)
I also have a motherboard with VIA chipset, and I have the exact same problem with freezes in 3.69 and 3.75. I am running in 3.66 and the performance drop is very noticeable. Via has an AGP port driver on their webpage, but it says it is for win95/98/SE. Will this port driver work for win2k? Or if anyone know any other way to fix it, can they please give a concise easy to follow explanation of how, I would really appreciate it.
*frustrated at not being able to use new drivers*
--Redwin
*frustrated at not being able to use new drivers*
--Redwin
FWIW, I get the same problem on my BX chipset mobo...
I'm having no problems with the 3.75 drivers.
My system config is:
P3 450
Soyo 6vba133
128 Meg Ram
Diamond Viper 770
3.66 had problems with a few games but that is it.
My system config is:
P3 450
Soyo 6vba133
128 Meg Ram
Diamond Viper 770
3.66 had problems with a few games but that is it.
Nope, the Via agp drivers won't work and can't be loaded. I think we're just stuck with running 3.66 until Via does something about it.
Interestingly, I was able to get the AGP optimizations working with the 3.66 drivers when a prog I was trying to get to run installed DirectX 5.0. I tried going to Dx6, but it didn't work then. Most of the games I have run in 6 or better so it sucks.
I couldn't even get it my card working correctly in my FIC PA2013 2Meg board. I swapped it out to a 503+ and then it worked (with 3.66 of course)
Interestingly, I was able to get the AGP optimizations working with the 3.66 drivers when a prog I was trying to get to run installed DirectX 5.0. I tried going to Dx6, but it didn't work then. Most of the games I have run in 6 or better so it sucks.
I couldn't even get it my card working correctly in my FIC PA2013 2Meg board. I swapped it out to a 503+ and then it worked (with 3.66 of course)
Well you can add my name to the list. I have random lockups as well. When I go back to the 3.68 drivers everything appears to be fine. When I try 3.69 or 3.75 my system randomly locks. I have an Athlon system using the Asus K7M MB with the AMD North Bridge chipset for the AGP slot. Possibly more than the VIA chipsets?
Does anyone know how to remove the AGP optimzations under the 3.75 drivers?
The older drivers run UT in a window'ed mode and that makes playing impossible.
-Q
Does anyone know how to remove the AGP optimzations under the 3.75 drivers?
The older drivers run UT in a window'ed mode and that makes playing impossible.
-Q
Well you can add my name to the list. I have random lockups as well. When I go back to the 3.68 drivers everything appears to be fine. When I try 3.69 or 3.75 my system randomly locks. I have an Athlon system using the Asus K7M MB with the AMD North Bridge chipset for the AGP slot. Possibly more than the VIA chipsets?
Does anyone know how to remove the AGP optimzations under the 3.75 drivers?
The older drivers run UT in a window'ed mode and that makes playing impossible.
-Q
Does anyone know how to remove the AGP optimzations under the 3.75 drivers?
The older drivers run UT in a window'ed mode and that makes playing impossible.
-Q
Run DXDIAG, and hit the Display tab - there are buttons to disable several video card driver features, including AGP...
Try disabling irq steering it worked for me
everything seems to be running stable so far
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I'ts not broken i'ts reverse engineered!
everything seems to be running stable so far
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I'ts not broken i'ts reverse engineered!
btw. recently I had to reinstall win2k from scratch - I'd lost all d3d and opengl support. Didn't matter what driver I used.
I wish I knew if the problem is that I'm using 2195.1 and not 2195.3..
I wish I knew if the problem is that I'm using 2195.1 and not 2195.3..
Ghetto....how do you disable IRQ steering under win2k?
Figured i'd try that and see if I could get these drivers to work.
-Q
Figured i'd try that and see if I could get these drivers to work.
-Q
You have to go to device manager then click on computer and standard pc properties.
Still running reat here after a few hours of gaming
[This message has been edited by GhettoPC (edited 31 January 2000).]
Still running reat here after a few hours of gaming
[This message has been edited by GhettoPC (edited 31 January 2000).]
A tough pill to swallow for some...
I would advise all users who want Windows 2000 and a nvidia based display card to ditch their non-Intel motherboards and buy one with the real i440BX or newer Intel chipset. If you hate Intel or your too in love with your VIA or ALI chipset, then sell your nvidia card and buy a Voodoo 3. You'll be thanking me if you do, and fighting a losing battle if you don't.
I don't love Intel or hate VIA/ALI, but thats just the way it looks like being for the immediate future.
I would advise all users who want Windows 2000 and a nvidia based display card to ditch their non-Intel motherboards and buy one with the real i440BX or newer Intel chipset. If you hate Intel or your too in love with your VIA or ALI chipset, then sell your nvidia card and buy a Voodoo 3. You'll be thanking me if you do, and fighting a losing battle if you don't.
I don't love Intel or hate VIA/ALI, but thats just the way it looks like being for the immediate future.
OP
I have ZERO problems in Windows 98 with my mobo and video card. It is obviously Windows 2000 or the drivers. So no, I'm not going to ditch my Athlon.
Sensei
Sensei
Disabling the optimizations in DirectX won't do no good. We just have to run a non-AGP driver until Via or MS fix the problem.
As for the other question of where to turn off the routing - go to the device manager and under PC and then Standard PC - it's under the properties. I recomend shutting it off for all non-intel boards. (I think Intel's trying to force everyone to there systems again - I don't think they'll succeed this time either)
As for the other question of where to turn off the routing - go to the device manager and under PC and then Standard PC - it's under the properties. I recomend shutting it off for all non-intel boards. (I think Intel's trying to force everyone to there systems again - I don't think they'll succeed this time either)
Given the Os is gold but the drivers are still beta, I'd say the drivers ned to improve a bit...
As for turning off IRQ steering....I went to the device manger and there are no references to "device manager then click on computer and standard pc properties". I went Start -> Settings -> Control Panel, double clicked System, selected the Hardware tab, and click on the Device Manager button. There is a "Computer" entry, but under there is the ACPI stuff.
So...what am I missing??
-Q
So...what am I missing??
-Q
ACPI is under the bios...
I'm sorry, I had just assumed that you knew where the Device Manager was. Right-click on My Computer on the desktop and hit Properties. Then select the Hardware tab and then the Device Manager button. Under there you'll see a tree with Computer and if you expand out that branch you'll see the Standard PC. A right-click >> Properties on that will take you to where you want to go.
