CyberGenX
Just built a 1.7GHz Celeron, 256MB PC2100, Intel 845 MB, Sound Blaster 128, Intel Nic, GeForce 2 GTS. Loaded FRESH INSTALL of Win2K and all Packs and Patches. Only have Norton 7.51 running, no others programs or driver helpers. Even after disbling a sh*t load of services the CPU usage never drops below 20% at Idle! WTF!, there is nothing running, even when I turn off Norton it stays at 18%-22%.
On my old AMD 1.2GHz CPU at work with pretty much the same set up I see 0%-2% at Idle. Is there something I am missing?
CPU Throttle is at 12.5% in BIOS, and it is not overheating. I am not using any onboard devices except the USB for my scanner.
On my old AMD 1.2GHz CPU at work with pretty much the same set up I see 0%-2% at Idle. Is there something I am missing?
CPU Throttle is at 12.5% in BIOS, and it is not overheating. I am not using any onboard devices except the USB for my scanner.
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jimf43
1-2% at idle should be right. And, you shouldn't have to disable services like that.
Did you install the Intel chipset utilitys?
http://www.majorgeeks.com/redirect.php?site=1&file=1667&gfile=yes
http://www.majorgeeks.com/getfile.php?file=835&site=1
Did you install the Intel chipset utilitys?
http://www.majorgeeks.com/redirect.php?site=1&file=1667&gfile=yes
http://www.majorgeeks.com/getfile.php?file=835&site=1
Jerry Atrik
what process is using the resources
CyberGenX
OP
I installed the chipset drivers that came with the board.
When I open Task Manager I have 16 Processes and in the CPU Field it has zeros all the way until System Idle Process which is at 99. Nothing else so much as peeps above 01.
What am I looking for in the Major Geeks links above?
When I open Task Manager I have 16 Processes and in the CPU Field it has zeros all the way until System Idle Process which is at 99. Nothing else so much as peeps above 01.
What am I looking for in the Major Geeks links above?
Jerry Atrik
try and run a benchmark
according to the services u arent idling at 20%
according to the services u arent idling at 20%
jimf43
Quote:I installed the chipset drivers that came with the board.
When I open Task Manager I have 16 Processes and in the CPU Field it has zeros all the way until System Idle Process which is at 99. Nothing else so much as peeps above 01.
What am I looking for in the Major Geeks links above?
Umm... sorry those links need to be pasted into the browser input... blame this site... they do work.
the first one is the latest 845 chipset optomization and the second is the application acceliator. both from intel.
When I open Task Manager I have 16 Processes and in the CPU Field it has zeros all the way until System Idle Process which is at 99. Nothing else so much as peeps above 01.
What am I looking for in the Major Geeks links above?
Umm... sorry those links need to be pasted into the browser input... blame this site... they do work.
the first one is the latest 845 chipset optomization and the second is the application acceliator. both from intel.
CyberGenX
OP
What am I looking for in the benchmark?
Jerry Atrik
i shoulda explained but i was in a hurry
if u really have a 20% draw and it's hidden like u have indicated
it should stick out like a sore thumb on a benchmark
if not then suspect the program thats telling u it's running at 20%@idle
if u really have a 20% draw and it's hidden like u have indicated
it should stick out like a sore thumb on a benchmark
if not then suspect the program thats telling u it's running at 20%@idle
CyberGenX
OP
Task manager is telling me 20% CPU Usage at Idle. I will try running some benches, just don't know what bench prog. will tel me what's running. This IS a fresh install of windows 2K SP3, so the only progs on it are Norton and all the drivers and patches for Intel and Windows.
Jerry Atrik
and the task manager also says no processes are working above 1% or so
sometimes the graph is wrong
any benchy will work as long as there is sunthin to compare to
sandra sisoft works well
sometimes the graph is wrong
any benchy will work as long as there is sunthin to compare to
sandra sisoft works well
CyberGenX
OP
On Sandra 2002 it benches lower than a P3 1.0GHz! Results are 2500MIPS and 1601MFLOPS. WTF.
Update: So far tried disabling ANY onboard hardware, Flashing BIOS and running Adaware incase there is anything on there by mistake. Still will not drop below 20%.
Update: So far tried disabling ANY onboard hardware, Flashing BIOS and running Adaware incase there is anything on there by mistake. Still will not drop below 20%.
Jerry Atrik
doh!
now im clueless. dont even have a w2k to test on
scanner still plugged in? u on a home lan
use sisoft and look thru the system info's
other than that im out of ideas
now im clueless. dont even have a w2k to test on
scanner still plugged in? u on a home lan
use sisoft and look thru the system info's
other than that im out of ideas
CyberGenX
OP
Yeah I unplugged the USB devices and even pulled cards. I have another machine that has the same board and CPU so i will install 2k on it and see if it does the same thing. :x
Champion_R
Is it kernel time(red bar) or not(green bar)?. Turn on show kernel time.
CyberGenX
OP
It is green bar, CPU usage. The when I turn on to Kernal time it is close to being in sync with green bar, it varies once it a while by 1-2%.
Champion_R
Then all the usage is kernel time. Try different video and sound cards. I assume ur already running bare minimum.
P.S. I'd also check your DMA settings and make sure DMA is turned on.
P.S. I'd also check your DMA settings and make sure DMA is turned on.
Champion_R
Quote:BUT, the "SYSTEM PROCESS" in taskmgr.exe processes tab is really alot of things iirc, drivers processes as well. A shame it's not broken into all of its parts so you could "Zero-In" on the offending process!
I'm sure he said there is no processes on the processes list including system using any CPU time bar the idle process. Definately seems driver or hardware related.
I'm sure he said there is no processes on the processes list including system using any CPU time bar the idle process. Definately seems driver or hardware related.
CyberGenX
OP
Here are the hardware specs:
Intel Celeron 1.7GHz
Hoxtek MB with Intel 845D chipset (lastest BIOS)
Kingston PC 2100 DDR, 256MB
GeForce 2 GTS 64MB DDR (41.09 Dets)
Sound Blaster 128 PCI
Intel NIC 10/100
IBM Deskstar 40GIG Drive Main
WD 30GIG Drive MP3s
12X DVD
ATI TV Wonder VE (MM 7.1)
Canon USB Scanner
HP LaserJet 3P LPT1 (with IRQ enabled)
DMA is enabled on all drives
Windows 2000 SP3 with I.E. 6 SP1 and ALL Windows Updates
I will try pulling cards today, as I was pretty sick yesterday (sniffle)
Intel Celeron 1.7GHz
Hoxtek MB with Intel 845D chipset (lastest BIOS)
Kingston PC 2100 DDR, 256MB
GeForce 2 GTS 64MB DDR (41.09 Dets)
Sound Blaster 128 PCI
Intel NIC 10/100
IBM Deskstar 40GIG Drive Main
WD 30GIG Drive MP3s
12X DVD
ATI TV Wonder VE (MM 7.1)
Canon USB Scanner
HP LaserJet 3P LPT1 (with IRQ enabled)
DMA is enabled on all drives
Windows 2000 SP3 with I.E. 6 SP1 and ALL Windows Updates
I will try pulling cards today, as I was pretty sick yesterday (sniffle)
CyberGenX
OP
!!!!!SOLUTION!!!!!
I pulled the Sound Blaster and rebooted, 0% CPU Usage! Yay! So after downloading the lastest Creative Drivers and reinserting the card still 0% Yippy yippy So this whole time it was the good ole sound blaster. Well thanks to all for your help and tips, now I can play!!!
I pulled the Sound Blaster and rebooted, 0% CPU Usage! Yay! So after downloading the lastest Creative Drivers and reinserting the card still 0% Yippy yippy So this whole time it was the good ole sound blaster. Well thanks to all for your help and tips, now I can play!!!
Jerry Atrik
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