Crashing

i have a problem that my computer crashes all the time under crash i mean that everything stops. . mouse doesn't move and no button functions. . only one is RESET okay. . the crash happens mostly if i download smthing it includes going to some webpage.

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i have a problem that my computer crashes all the time
under "crash" i mean that everything stops..mouse doesn't move and no button functions..only one is RESET
 
okay..the crash happens mostly if i download smthing
it includes going to some webpage...(i need to download temporary files to be on webpage)
 
mostly i happens if i want to download a file
 
i have noticed that it crashes usually when i download an *.exe file
but it happens also with other formats
BTW DAP,Getright and other download programs are not helping
 
okay..i can live with crashing .. i mean.. i can resume my downloads.. but it can be rather sucky if u'r computer crashes about 100 times per day...
 
my other problem is that...sometimes my download speed goes to zero and it wont go further..it just stops...like..pause/resume don't help..usually this is with most of 10 MB files ... but i am pretty sure that it doesn't matter if file is bigger or smaller..but i think that if the file is smaller it just doesn't have time to make my speed zero..
 
also i have noticed that when i'm using Kazzaa and Ares or smthing like that..i mean the file comes from looots of different users..not from server .. then it doesn't stop the download(speed doesn't go to zero)
 
i am really worried..i do not know what to do..
it's impossible to download smthing and i hate it..
really do..if i could get rid of it, it would be awsome..i could download like millions of things that i have wanted to download but never have had a chance
 
looking forward of your answer..btw sry about my english..it's not my mother language

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All right im not going to pretend to be an expert with your problem, but a wise thing to do would run your anti-virus software, anti-adware/spyware software. Do you have dial-up, dsl, or cable internet. What operating system do you run on? (windows 98, 2000, xp...)If you run something in your CD drive do you hear a humming noise which would mean your computer's fan would be turning on properly, and when you say your computer crashes you mean it freezes and makes you restart it right?


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Gef4000, is correct in what you need to do. I wouldn't doubt if you haven't picked up alot of Spyware or worse.
If you can download a small file then go here and download Hijack This and run it and post the log in this thread.
 
http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=3155
 
Good Luck


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i don't think it is because of spyware
because i have formatted my comp many times..same problem still
i do have kaspersky..but i don't think is virus
 
mm i am running on xp..yes sometimes noise comes..sometimes it is sharp noise..like rrr rrr rrr rrr or smthing..but this is very rarely...usualy the humming noise i think...i think i have dsl..
i know it is not modem for sure .. it is 2mb internet..but it is shared with other people..like i behind router...
 

Quote:and when you say your computer crashes you mean it freezes and makes you restart it right?

 
yes it freezes and then i just press restart because nothing else works...


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Hmmm ... at first if it wasn't spyware I thought your computer might be getting over heated and shutting down but since it just freezes that means its got to be something else, im not too sure but your memory might be insufficient, but I really don't know. On my dad's computer it always used to freeze and i'd have to restart it but then, I upgraded memory and it appeared to happen less often. But that wouldn't explain why your internet speeds are so slow ... sorry but i really don't know what to say or look for ...


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hmm memory..u mean RAM?
i have 256 of that
and 2Mb isn't slow internet speed..or it is?
 
but u know why it almost only happens when i download smthing? :S


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like i said i do not know enough to say for sure but the most logical would by adware, spyware, virus, or even a worm(not likely) but i would highely suggest running norton or your anti adware/spyware software but you said you reformatted it many times does that include durring the time the crashes started?


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It sounds like you seriously need to add more ram to your system


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are u sure that i need ram..i mean .. it almost only crashes when i download..does download need so much ram?
 
also...the crashing has been for many years now...i don't know when it started
 
they may have been from start too..but can't say for sure
and i have reformatted recently too..
 

Quote:but you said you reformatted it many times does that include durring the time the crashes started?

 
yep


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Full system specs please, as in
CPU
Motherboard
RAM
Power supply
Hard Drives
Videocard
Soundcard
Ethernet card
 
The full monty, there's no point in us try to fix a problem if we have to guess what type of hardware you have in your system.


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can u give me proggie to see all these things?


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SiSoftware Sandra
 
System
Host Name : KODU
User : Jaanus
Domain : WORKGROUP
 
Processor
Model : Intel® Pentium® 4 CPU 1500MHz
Speed : 1.51GHz
Performance Rating : PR1665 (estimated)
Cores per Processor : 1 Unit(s)
Threads per Core : 1 Unit(s)
Internal Data Cache : 8kB Synchronous, Write-Thru, 4-way set, 64 byte line size
L2 On-board Cache : 256kB ECC Synchronous, ATC, 8-way set, 64 byte line size, 2 lines per sector
 
Mainboard
Bus(es) : ISA AGP PCI IMB USB i2c/SMBus
MP Support : 1 Processor(s)
MP APIC : Yes
System BIOS : Award Software International, Inc. 6.00 PG
Mainboard : i845ITE8712
Total Memory : 256MB SDRAM
 
Chipset 1
Model : Intel Corporation 82845 Brookdale Host-Hub Interface Bridge (A3-step)
Front Side Bus Speed : 4x 101MHz (404MHz data rate)
Total Memory : 256MB SDRAM
Memory Bus Speed : 1x 134MHz (134MHz data rate)
 
Video System
Monitor/Panel : Samsung SyncMaster 755DF(T)
Adapter : NVIDIA GeForce2 MX 100/200
Imaging Device : Logitech QuickCam Messenger #2
 
Physical Storage Devices
Hard Disk : SAMSUNG SP0802N (75GB)
CD-ROM/DVD : SONY CD-RW CRX160E (CD 32X Rd, 12X Wr)
CD-ROM/DVD : Generic CD-ROM SCSI CdRom Device (CD 32X Rd) (DVD 4X Rd)
 
Logical Storage Devices
Hard Disk (C:) : 75GB (39GB, 53% Free Space) (NTFS)
CD-ROM/DVD (D:) : N/A
CD-ROM/DVD (E:) : N/A
 
Peripherals
Serial/Parallel Port(s) : 2 COM / 1 LPT
USB Controller/Hub : Intel® 82801BA/BAM USB Universal Host Controller - 2442
USB Controller/Hub : Intel® 82801BA/BAM USB Universal Host Controller - 2444
USB Controller/Hub : USB Root Hub
USB Controller/Hub : USB Root Hub
USB Controller/Hub : Logitech USB Camera (Messenger)
Keyboard : Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
Mouse : PS/2 Compatible Mouse
 
MultiMedia Device(s)
Device : Intel® 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio Controller
 
Printers and Faxes
Model : Microsoft Office Document Image Writer
Model : Canon PIXMA iP1000
Model : Auto Canon Bubble-Jet BJC-1000 on TARMO
 
Power Management
AC Line Status : On-Line
 
Operating System(s)
Windows System : Microsoft Windows XP/2002 Professional (Win32 x86) 5.01.2600 (Service Pack 1)
 
Network Services
Adapter : SMC EZ Card 10/100 Fast Ethernet PCI Network Adapter
 
Performance Tips
Tip 2546 : Large memory modules should be ECC/Parity.
Tip 2 : Double-click tip or press Enter while a tip is selected for more information about the tip.
 
 
 
mmm this is the summary..
when u want any details tell me what u want and from where i get it
 


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From my experience, you may not have a large enough power supply to power your computer. You have at least 4 drives (3 DVDs and a Hard Drive) plus USB devices. You should use an online power supply calculator to determine the amount of wattage your system will require to power all of your devices.
 
Based on the information you gave provided above, I was able to determine that you would need at least a 338 Watt power supply, and that does not include any USB devices. There is no program that will tell you how many watts your power supply kicks out. You have to open your computer and look at the output on the sticker on the side of the power supply.
 
Most big box computers only come with a 250 Watt supply. If this is the case, and you have added drives and cards over time, it would explain your problem. Your computer is "freezing" sometimes randomly, but most of the time when the hard drive is being used in conjunction with your network connection. I honestly think if you check, you will find your power supply is not sufficient.
 
I would recommend that you upgrade to at least a 400 Watt power supply. If you add RAM memory without increasing the wattage of the power supply, you will only make matters worse.


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well about the drives
i don't think i got so many drives
i think it shows my router dude drives too..
because it shows the printer of the dude who has the router
 
drives are these things where i put CD in?
well in that case i have only one CD rom..and it is CD writer and reader
i do not have a dvd drive..though it shows one in My Computer :S
and Sandra shows one..but this is not mine
btw where u saw 3 DVDs ? i saw only 2 and one isn't even mine...plus my hard disk..
 
Physical Storage Devices
Hard Disk : SAMSUNG SP0802N (75GB)
CD-ROM/DVD : SONY CD-RW CRX160E (CD 32X Rd, 12X Wr)
CD-ROM/DVD : Generic CD-ROM SCSI CdRom Device (CD 32X Rd) (DVD 4X Rd)
 
also..are u sure that it is about power and ram..
because i usually crashes when i download..
 


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Well the fact that you have formatted recently and it still crashes would tend to lead us to believe it is a hardware issue. I personally think you should upgrade the computer. Typically, the crashes that you seem to be having are power supply or RAM related. Your power supply may be rated for enough power but that doesn't mean the power it is putting out is clean or within the limits needed by your components (there are tons of posts online about the new Antec Neo HE power supplies not working with ASUS SLI motherboards - those power supplies are great and powerful and those motherboards are some of the best on the market....they just don't work well together. Oh and Antec has revised the wiring in the power supplies so there are no longer instability issues).


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Quote:CD-ROM/DVD : Generic CD-ROM SCSI CdRom Device (CD 32X Rd) (DVD 4X Rd)

Are you using Daemons Tools or anything like it to create a virtual cd/dvd drive?

If so, uninstall it and see if that helps. 256MB of ram is the minimum that XP will run on and these types of programs use up a lot of ram.



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well yeh .. it was installed..
but it wasn't running..
btw the computer crashes even then when daemon tools uninstalled.. as i said..it crashes even after reformat
 
okay i think i have to buy new ram and power like u say
recommend me ram and power..


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Char, first do as Thor suggests and buy a new power supply. At least 400 watts. I just finished an article that Philipp had posted here on power supplies and it says it leads to crashes when you don't have enough juice to run everything. See if that doesn't take care of the problem.
If it doesn't then go for the RAM, check who made your comp for the proper RAM to use. The rule of thumb on RAM is, buy as much as you can afford. It only gets more expensive as time goes by for older style RAM.
 
Good Luck


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