FUNNY: 3Dfx - 16 vs. 32 bits color depth!!
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Hahahaha! This is sooooo funny!
Remember when 3Dfx insisted that 16 bits color depth would be enough by far when they started to promote the Voodoo3 cards? They also said there was no visible difference between 32bpp and a dithered 16bpp image. Remember that???
Ok, then read this:
http://www.3dfx.com/3dfxTechnology/32-bittextures.html
They've totally changed their mind!
I ROFL'ed when I read this.... 3Dfx must be stupid! (Although their cards have never really been bad!)
nova.
PS: Want to know what card I have? It's a TNT2...
Remember when 3Dfx insisted that 16 bits color depth would be enough by far when they started to promote the Voodoo3 cards? They also said there was no visible difference between 32bpp and a dithered 16bpp image. Remember that???
Ok, then read this:
http://www.3dfx.com/3dfxTechnology/32-bittextures.html
They've totally changed their mind!
I ROFL'ed when I read this.... 3Dfx must be stupid! (Although their cards have never really been bad!)
nova.
PS: Want to know what card I have? It's a TNT2...
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THats a pretty distinct difference.... when I had my Voodoo 3, in QUake 3, I noticed a visible color "quality" difference when I went between 16 & 32. I dont know if there was a distinct difference in image quality, but the color was insanely different. Now I have a dysfunctional Viper II. Brand new Savage 2000 card, new card new os, no drivers. What the hell is that?
-Kris
-Kris

OP
That's sad!
BTW, I notice the difference between 16 and 32 bpp, too! Especially in Q3A. But unfortunately my system (P2-350, TNT2) is not fast enough to run Q3A smoothly in 800x600 in 32bpp, so I switched down to 16bpp. It hurts to do that, but if I don't want to play in 640x480, I have no choice (the other graphics options in Q3A give only a very minor performance boost if switched off...).
I guess I will have to upgrade my CPU!
nova.
BTW, I notice the difference between 16 and 32 bpp, too! Especially in Q3A. But unfortunately my system (P2-350, TNT2) is not fast enough to run Q3A smoothly in 800x600 in 32bpp, so I switched down to 16bpp. It hurts to do that, but if I don't want to play in 640x480, I have no choice (the other graphics options in Q3A give only a very minor performance boost if switched off...).
I guess I will have to upgrade my CPU!
nova.
This Viper Card annihlates the Geforce even with the ddr...... I get 36 fps at 1280x1024 with EVERYTHING cranked up to the fullest. I took someones advice and tried downloading the NT4 driver. Ha. I have two monitors, the one running off my viper still says "Windows 2000 Starting Up" Whatever. There have been tons of driver problems with this card... S3 CT problems in unreal.... dunno, the drivers dont actually SUPPORT S3TL, even thought it says the card supports it on the box. Buncha **** if you ask me. I am also annoyed that it seems that the drivers thus far seem to be written to run well with only certain softwares.... it sucks ass in 3dbench... but kicks everyone but the prophets ass in everything other than winbecnh...dunno. Over all I am very happy with the card.... How can you argue with 36 fps at 1280?
-KRis
If anyone from Diamond is reading this, or savage for that matter, GET ON THE FREAKIN BALL AND GIMMIE SOME DAMN DRIVERS!
-KRis
If anyone from Diamond is reading this, or savage for that matter, GET ON THE FREAKIN BALL AND GIMMIE SOME DAMN DRIVERS!
For Voodoo3, if the apps can utilize the alpha blending of the V3 driver, then I would say the output quality in many occasions is more or less similar to 24bpp, that would take close crutiny or expertise in differrentiating it from true 32bpp. And hardly noticeable in the midst of gameplay.
I dont think 30fps is good enough for any realistic gameplay, and it seems for 3dfx is right on their part to prefer fps over bbp, since nobody care to play Q3A at 30fps leaving low down on the score rather than not switching to 640x480x16bpp and crank up you scroe as well as excitement.
I dont think 30fps is good enough for any realistic gameplay, and it seems for 3dfx is right on their part to prefer fps over bbp, since nobody care to play Q3A at 30fps leaving low down on the score rather than not switching to 640x480x16bpp and crank up you scroe as well as excitement.
3dfx image quality up to date, is very passable (well voodoo3 at least) but not anything special, its a well known fact thats been beat to death. I do not enjoy getting 200 fps at 640 its to no avail. With my tnt2u NOT GEFORCE, Im getting 70 FPS in 640x480 in HQ, and about 55 in 8x6. I prefer 60 fps but 55 is FINE by me at HQ.
with normal settings at 1024x768 Im getting 60 FPS which is totally ideal for me, and it still looks better thena 3dfx card. And yes I do have both cards. Iv got a tnt1 a tnt2ultra in my primary box, a 3dfx v3 2k in my win98 secondary box, and a 3dfx banshee in my router.
I prefer my tnt2u, but I do like both of them.
with normal settings at 1024x768 Im getting 60 FPS which is totally ideal for me, and it still looks better thena 3dfx card. And yes I do have both cards. Iv got a tnt1 a tnt2ultra in my primary box, a 3dfx v3 2k in my win98 secondary box, and a 3dfx banshee in my router.
I prefer my tnt2u, but I do like both of them.

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We don't need to discuss whether 16bpp with dithering is as good as 24/32bpp or not!
You don't understand WHAT EXACTLY I find so funny!!
It's the fact that a year ago or so, 3Dfx themselves insisted that 16bpp is absolutely enough... Now they say that the best choice would be 32bpp!
That's schizophrenic!
nova.
You don't understand WHAT EXACTLY I find so funny!!
It's the fact that a year ago or so, 3Dfx themselves insisted that 16bpp is absolutely enough... Now they say that the best choice would be 32bpp!
That's schizophrenic!
nova.
I remember too when TNT2 was out : 3dfx was selling is 16b chip and as every benchmark under 32b for TNT2 against Voodoo# was telling that 3dfx chip DID NOT support 32b, 3dfx keeped saying : 32b is for crazy peolple, no one can see the difference. And now, here they are.
Awx
Awx
Nova, that isn't funny, it's called marketing.
It happens all the time. Remember when Bill Gates said thathe didn't see MS getting into the internet?
Now look at them...
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It happens all the time. Remember when Bill Gates said thathe didn't see MS getting into the internet?
Now look at them...
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*gniltrohc yawa srednaw*

OP
PraetorJudis, I know it's marketing, but nevertheless I find it's funny...... am I not allowed to?
nova.
nova.
Of course you are Nova. I wasn't trying to stir up trouble or dictate to your sense of humor.
I think on some level I thought you meant funny 'peculiar' and not funny 'ha ha.'
I'm in a grim mood today. It's rubbing off on everything... ew...
Pax?
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I think on some level I thought you meant funny 'peculiar' and not funny 'ha ha.'
I'm in a grim mood today. It's rubbing off on everything... ew...
Pax?
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*gniltrohc yawa srednaw*

OP
Of course. I didn't take it personally.
Have a nice day!
Have a nice day!