Malaris
I'm so sorry, I jusy had to do it now that they are both released.
Please post with every vote, I don't want fanboys posting here and saying things along the line of 'Halo 2 is shit' and 'Half-Life 2 blows' etc.
Give reasons for your answers.
My personal favourite is Half-Life 2, I find the story scarily submersive. Whilst progression in the game is actually fairly linear, I feel that it is done in such a style that it doesn't fell like you are following a set path.
The graphics and sound ARE the best I've ever seen/heard. The system I played it on wasn't the pinnacle of gaming machines either, but it did meet the preferred(not minimum or recommended) requirements. The shear variety of sound is good, and it makes full use of surround sound (5.1 at least, not sure about higher sound formats). I won't go on about the graphics lest you have a few hours to spare reading my ramblings.....
Counter Strike: Source is THE best online FPS I have played. My repetoire of games played online includes; UT(all), halo 1 + 2, Deus Ex, BF1942, SW:Battlefront, and more (sorry if I missed any obvious ones, these are the first that came to mind).
It combines the fast paced/frantic action of UT with the necessity for tactical awareness on games such as Halo and SW:Battlefront.
But most importantly-the game engine. The physics really are like real life, the first time I played it, I dragged a rusting bicycle up the stairs of an appartment block (while scraping the walls) and smashed some poor man's window in his flat with it. I then pulled his TV out of the socket and threw it out of the window, where it smashed on the street below, genius! 8)
The way that barrels roll, pipes burst and interactive scenery behaves, it's like objects have AI.
If you disagree, then argue your case for Halo 2, but remember everyone's opinion will differ.
BTW, I'm not a salesman working for Valve, honest!
Please post with every vote, I don't want fanboys posting here and saying things along the line of 'Halo 2 is shit' and 'Half-Life 2 blows' etc.
Give reasons for your answers.
My personal favourite is Half-Life 2, I find the story scarily submersive. Whilst progression in the game is actually fairly linear, I feel that it is done in such a style that it doesn't fell like you are following a set path.
The graphics and sound ARE the best I've ever seen/heard. The system I played it on wasn't the pinnacle of gaming machines either, but it did meet the preferred(not minimum or recommended) requirements. The shear variety of sound is good, and it makes full use of surround sound (5.1 at least, not sure about higher sound formats). I won't go on about the graphics lest you have a few hours to spare reading my ramblings.....
Counter Strike: Source is THE best online FPS I have played. My repetoire of games played online includes; UT(all), halo 1 + 2, Deus Ex, BF1942, SW:Battlefront, and more (sorry if I missed any obvious ones, these are the first that came to mind).
It combines the fast paced/frantic action of UT with the necessity for tactical awareness on games such as Halo and SW:Battlefront.
But most importantly-the game engine. The physics really are like real life, the first time I played it, I dragged a rusting bicycle up the stairs of an appartment block (while scraping the walls) and smashed some poor man's window in his flat with it. I then pulled his TV out of the socket and threw it out of the window, where it smashed on the street below, genius! 8)
The way that barrels roll, pipes burst and interactive scenery behaves, it's like objects have AI.
If you disagree, then argue your case for Halo 2, but remember everyone's opinion will differ.
BTW, I'm not a salesman working for Valve, honest!
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Mutasem Semakieh
Originally posted by Waffler:
Quote:*sigh*
and about you waffler.. why the hell did you even open this room if ur gonna disagree with every review I make? Ill tell you what, when half life 2 comes on xbox (with online play) then ill start comparing. *sigh* looks like 90 % are PC freaks and wouldnt spend a penny on a console. Just let me tell you some thing.. When i wanna play a game, I like to sit on my leather sofa, with cold drinks next to me,with a 54 LCD Flat screen TV, and a nice ass xbox controller with ( VIBRATION ), PC?? when I sit on PC for a long time you start feeling like ur starting to grow a hunch back! I dont give a Monkeys ass if key board and mouse are classic, it DOESNT simulate the real feeling of shooting a gun. If you think Xbox doesnt have nice graphics, then wait for Xbox 2!
Quote:*sigh*
and about you waffler.. why the hell did you even open this room if ur gonna disagree with every review I make? Ill tell you what, when half life 2 comes on xbox (with online play) then ill start comparing. *sigh* looks like 90 % are PC freaks and wouldnt spend a penny on a console. Just let me tell you some thing.. When i wanna play a game, I like to sit on my leather sofa, with cold drinks next to me,with a 54 LCD Flat screen TV, and a nice ass xbox controller with ( VIBRATION ), PC?? when I sit on PC for a long time you start feeling like ur starting to grow a hunch back! I dont give a Monkeys ass if key board and mouse are classic, it DOESNT simulate the real feeling of shooting a gun. If you think Xbox doesnt have nice graphics, then wait for Xbox 2!
felix
Um, the XBox controller doesn't simulate firing a weapon either.
Unless the "VIBRATRON" gives it a kick like a mule that nearly dislocates your shoulder if you hold it in the wrong position.
Now don't get me wrong, I have an XBox and enjoy playing Halo but I can't be bothered playing multi-player. However, I still play HL and a few others in both single player, multi-player and bot match (actually the original Unreal bots remind me of the Quake 1 Reaper Bots).
Personally I think it's a little unhealthy to get so wound up over any "toy" and just accept that some people like the unlimited configurations of the KBD/MOUSE combo and some like the restrictive, right-handed bias of console controllers.
Unless the "VIBRATRON" gives it a kick like a mule that nearly dislocates your shoulder if you hold it in the wrong position.
Now don't get me wrong, I have an XBox and enjoy playing Halo but I can't be bothered playing multi-player. However, I still play HL and a few others in both single player, multi-player and bot match (actually the original Unreal bots remind me of the Quake 1 Reaper Bots).
Personally I think it's a little unhealthy to get so wound up over any "toy" and just accept that some people like the unlimited configurations of the KBD/MOUSE combo and some like the restrictive, right-handed bias of console controllers.
janfebmar
felix is 100% right about that.
im in the army and i know that the vibration on xbox is more like holding the tail of a mouse.. (if the mouse is still alive).
but the thing is that you got more aim with a mouse than with consoles.. there is a reason why counter - strike is on pc..
i dont hate consoles, but lets just say that youll get more from your money if you buy Half-life 2.
half life 2 is out, and have been for some weeks now (in europe around 2 i think).
and there are lots of lots of mods and addons for half-life 2.
which make the online experience more exciting than ever.
yes i know that only source is bundled, but then again.. isnt there already a hl2 dm mod out?
you get my point?
that is why i love the pc. its freedom. give or take..
i know you can mod your xbox, but then its just like a pc.. the only thing you lack is a keyboard and a mouse..
im in the army and i know that the vibration on xbox is more like holding the tail of a mouse.. (if the mouse is still alive).
but the thing is that you got more aim with a mouse than with consoles.. there is a reason why counter - strike is on pc..
i dont hate consoles, but lets just say that youll get more from your money if you buy Half-life 2.
half life 2 is out, and have been for some weeks now (in europe around 2 i think).
and there are lots of lots of mods and addons for half-life 2.
which make the online experience more exciting than ever.
yes i know that only source is bundled, but then again.. isnt there already a hl2 dm mod out?
you get my point?
that is why i love the pc. its freedom. give or take..
i know you can mod your xbox, but then its just like a pc.. the only thing you lack is a keyboard and a mouse..
Mutasem Semakieh
You still didnt get the idea....
Im so good with controller man! every game i get between 10 - 20 sniper head shots PER GAME!. There is some thing called ''learning''.
tell me what stuff you didnt like about halo 2.
Im so good with controller man! every game i get between 10 - 20 sniper head shots PER GAME!. There is some thing called ''learning''.
tell me what stuff you didnt like about halo 2.
janfebmar
halo 2.. bad graphics.. bad physics..
half life is opposite.
well.. you think your good, but if you playd halo 2 agains a equally skilled person who used mouse and keyboard you would have lost..
and yeah.. halo2 on console got some "aid" helping you shoot.. as every fps in the console world.
well. i get the feeling you havent played half life 2.
half life is opposite.
well.. you think your good, but if you playd halo 2 agains a equally skilled person who used mouse and keyboard you would have lost..
and yeah.. halo2 on console got some "aid" helping you shoot.. as every fps in the console world.
well. i get the feeling you havent played half life 2.
Mutasem Semakieh
EH!! any way I want a favor...
In half life 1 ( the orange virson ) with Mr. gordon on the cover of the box, I need to know what happens in the end! I remmber playing till we had to go to the aliens world. then i met with this huge monster and took me so long to kill him. after he died, portals started going out of his head, but i didnt know what to do. i kept trying to jump on his head and try to land on one of those portals but it wouldnt work,so i was stuck with a monster blowing portals out of his head lol. well any way that was long time ago, I uninstalled the game and didnt bother with it at all. But i still wanna know what happens in the end.
In half life 1 ( the orange virson ) with Mr. gordon on the cover of the box, I need to know what happens in the end! I remmber playing till we had to go to the aliens world. then i met with this huge monster and took me so long to kill him. after he died, portals started going out of his head, but i didnt know what to do. i kept trying to jump on his head and try to land on one of those portals but it wouldnt work,so i was stuck with a monster blowing portals out of his head lol. well any way that was long time ago, I uninstalled the game and didnt bother with it at all. But i still wanna know what happens in the end.
l33tpsycho
Quote:Im so good with controller man! every game i get between 10 - 20 sniper head shots PER GAME!. There is some thing called ''learning''.
yeah i once got 50 kills in counter strike with a auto sniper (cs militia as a terrorist). With a mouse you have more control over where your crosshair is so you can move it instantly to where you want it however aiming a sniper rifle in console games is a bit hit and miss. also im left handed and so it means that halo 2 multiplayer is instantly out of the question for me.
Quote:tell me what stuff you didnt like about halo 2.
well halo 2 is a case of been there done that. its gameplay is a bit stale and its nothing that hasnt been done before.
oh and ive got bad news for people who think halo 2 multiplayer is better. half life 2 deathmatch has just been released and its so fun (just try chucking a toilet and see what i mean).
yeah i once got 50 kills in counter strike with a auto sniper (cs militia as a terrorist). With a mouse you have more control over where your crosshair is so you can move it instantly to where you want it however aiming a sniper rifle in console games is a bit hit and miss. also im left handed and so it means that halo 2 multiplayer is instantly out of the question for me.
Quote:tell me what stuff you didnt like about halo 2.
well halo 2 is a case of been there done that. its gameplay is a bit stale and its nothing that hasnt been done before.
oh and ive got bad news for people who think halo 2 multiplayer is better. half life 2 deathmatch has just been released and its so fun (just try chucking a toilet and see what i mean).
wingnut
Ok, here we go ... Half Life 2 vs Halo 2.
Why did I choose Half Life 2?
Half Life 2 does SOOO much to improve on Half Life. The environments are greatly interactive. I can do a LOT more now than flush a toilet. The graphics are top notch. I haven't spotted any pop-in on the level of detail of characters when I get close. The water looks wonderful. The AI reacts smarter and more realistically - of both your teammates and the enemies. The physics of the vehicles are fun. Um ... I think the only vehicles you got to 'drive' in the first Half Life was those stupid trolly things. The physics are fun with everything! Oh yeah, and they did take a way a lot of the stupid jumping games.
Halo 2 does not do that much to improve on the first Halo. I feel like I am re-embarking on basically the same adventure. The re-use of textures is amazing (sarcasm). The AI of the enemies and of your teammates is a very canned feeling. The graphics are good and I can understand why they aren't better than HL2, BUT there is one thing that I would detract from the score here on. There is this horrible horrible pop-in - that is especially witnessed in the cutscenes. I would rather have a slightly lower level of detail without pop-in. The pop-in is so jarring! Gameplay is fun - hell I like to shoot stuff. You get to wield two weapons - which is an improvement over the first that is a LOT of fun. The physics on the vehicles and ragdoll are nice - just like the first Halo. Multiplayer is just a bit more exciting than the first Halo. BUT, I would have to give Halo 2 the props for having a built in new multiplayer from the start, rather than HL2 which depends on the mod community and updated version of the old multiplayer. BUT, if we are going to argue about multiplayer I would also have to say UT2004 is the best. But, we aren't arguing about multiplayer, we aren't even arguing, we are just giving our opinions on what we think is better and why.
Conclusion. I think Half Life 2 is better because of the fact that it does so much to improve FPS's all together and because it is extremely polished. While, Halo 2 on the other hand does a lot to improve on, but then has some things that detract from my opinion on it - like the pop in and the fact that it seems to re-use some of the first Halo too much.
note: This is aside from the kbd/ms vs console controller war. I have played many PC and Console games and like most of them. I'll just list FPS's here
PC: Doom, Doom II, Duke Nukem, Decent, Sin, Half Life, Quake, Quake II, Quake III, Unreal, Unreal Tournament, UT 2004, Tribes, Tribes 2, Tribes Vengence, Half Life 2
Console: Goldeneye, Forsaken 64, Duke Nukem 64, Quake II, Medal of Honor, Timesplitters 2, Halo, Halo 2, Riddick
If you really want me to explain the ending of Half Life, e-mail me at swingler@gmail.com.
Why did I choose Half Life 2?
Half Life 2 does SOOO much to improve on Half Life. The environments are greatly interactive. I can do a LOT more now than flush a toilet. The graphics are top notch. I haven't spotted any pop-in on the level of detail of characters when I get close. The water looks wonderful. The AI reacts smarter and more realistically - of both your teammates and the enemies. The physics of the vehicles are fun. Um ... I think the only vehicles you got to 'drive' in the first Half Life was those stupid trolly things. The physics are fun with everything! Oh yeah, and they did take a way a lot of the stupid jumping games.
Halo 2 does not do that much to improve on the first Halo. I feel like I am re-embarking on basically the same adventure. The re-use of textures is amazing (sarcasm). The AI of the enemies and of your teammates is a very canned feeling. The graphics are good and I can understand why they aren't better than HL2, BUT there is one thing that I would detract from the score here on. There is this horrible horrible pop-in - that is especially witnessed in the cutscenes. I would rather have a slightly lower level of detail without pop-in. The pop-in is so jarring! Gameplay is fun - hell I like to shoot stuff. You get to wield two weapons - which is an improvement over the first that is a LOT of fun. The physics on the vehicles and ragdoll are nice - just like the first Halo. Multiplayer is just a bit more exciting than the first Halo. BUT, I would have to give Halo 2 the props for having a built in new multiplayer from the start, rather than HL2 which depends on the mod community and updated version of the old multiplayer. BUT, if we are going to argue about multiplayer I would also have to say UT2004 is the best. But, we aren't arguing about multiplayer, we aren't even arguing, we are just giving our opinions on what we think is better and why.
Conclusion. I think Half Life 2 is better because of the fact that it does so much to improve FPS's all together and because it is extremely polished. While, Halo 2 on the other hand does a lot to improve on, but then has some things that detract from my opinion on it - like the pop in and the fact that it seems to re-use some of the first Halo too much.
note: This is aside from the kbd/ms vs console controller war. I have played many PC and Console games and like most of them. I'll just list FPS's here
PC: Doom, Doom II, Duke Nukem, Decent, Sin, Half Life, Quake, Quake II, Quake III, Unreal, Unreal Tournament, UT 2004, Tribes, Tribes 2, Tribes Vengence, Half Life 2
Console: Goldeneye, Forsaken 64, Duke Nukem 64, Quake II, Medal of Honor, Timesplitters 2, Halo, Halo 2, Riddick
If you really want me to explain the ending of Half Life, e-mail me at swingler@gmail.com.
Mutasem Semakieh
I would love to tell me the ending and actully how could I passed that big monster '' in here''.
In half life 1 ( the orange virson ) with Mr. gordon on the cover of the box, I need to know what happens in the end! I remmber playing till we had to go to the aliens world. then i met with this huge monster and took me so long to kill him. after he died, portals started going out of his head, but i didnt know what to do. i kept trying to jump on his head and try to land on one of those portals but it wouldnt work,so i was stuck with a monster blowing portals out of his head lol. well any way that was long time ago, I uninstalled the game and didnt bother with it at all. But i still wanna know what happens in the end.
In half life 1 ( the orange virson ) with Mr. gordon on the cover of the box, I need to know what happens in the end! I remmber playing till we had to go to the aliens world. then i met with this huge monster and took me so long to kill him. after he died, portals started going out of his head, but i didnt know what to do. i kept trying to jump on his head and try to land on one of those portals but it wouldnt work,so i was stuck with a monster blowing portals out of his head lol. well any way that was long time ago, I uninstalled the game and didnt bother with it at all. But i still wanna know what happens in the end.
Mutasem Semakieh
AWNSER ME GOD DAMIT!! WHY NO ONE IS POSTING!!! HURRY UP!!
felix
JHC, keep your shirt on. There is only one NTC staff member, and that's Phillip. Everyone else posts when they feel like it/have time, so don't go around demanding people help you.
That being said.
At the end of HL you need to use the jump pads and ledges to get as high up as possible, then use the final jump pad to jump into the big baby's head after it opens. At this point you should have shot out the 3 yellos crystals that recharge him and done significant damage so his head will open.
There will be a green portal. Jump through that and you be taken to another location (battlefield) on Xen where GMan tells you that humans are winning then you get zapped to an Osprey flying in space/another dimension where GMan makes you an offer you can't refuse. Either you work for him, or he sends you to a valley where there are hundreds of the wasp-launching three armed things that get very cranky. Depening on which of these you choose you get a "Deceased" or "Awaiting Assignment" message and then cut to credits.
That being said.
At the end of HL you need to use the jump pads and ledges to get as high up as possible, then use the final jump pad to jump into the big baby's head after it opens. At this point you should have shot out the 3 yellos crystals that recharge him and done significant damage so his head will open.
There will be a green portal. Jump through that and you be taken to another location (battlefield) on Xen where GMan tells you that humans are winning then you get zapped to an Osprey flying in space/another dimension where GMan makes you an offer you can't refuse. Either you work for him, or he sends you to a valley where there are hundreds of the wasp-launching three armed things that get very cranky. Depening on which of these you choose you get a "Deceased" or "Awaiting Assignment" message and then cut to credits.
Mutasem Semakieh
thx Mr.flix. also can u tell me some thing mysterois that i never had the chance to find out since that i was 6 grade when i played half life 1, while i was playing, some times i see a man walking with a blue suit and a suit case, actuly if you plz tell me the whole story of half life 1, Im not american, i came to united states 4 years ago, and i played half life with acutlly no attention to story. I will really appricate it if u help me, thx!!!
Rekyrts
Originally posted by arkonmx:
Quote:the 1998 Unreal Tournament
it was really 1999..
Quote:My last words, "look beyond Halo2."AMEN
i cant chose either 2 b/c
the greatest singleplayer game was "Quake II"
and the greatest multiplayer game was "Unreal Tournament"
Quote:the 1998 Unreal Tournament
it was really 1999..
Quote:My last words, "look beyond Halo2."AMEN
i cant chose either 2 b/c
the greatest singleplayer game was "Quake II"
and the greatest multiplayer game was "Unreal Tournament"
Mutasem Semakieh
Rekyrts, *sigh* STFU you dumb ass, ur a noob that dont know what a good game is, half life 2, wait, actully half life 1 was better than quake 2 and ur cheap ass UNreal STFU!!!
NOw can u tell me half life 1 story, felix tell me story dogg!
and can any one tell me how can i become a seinor member, cause i dont like just the word ''member'' next to my amazing awsome name! MUTASEM SEMAKIEH
NOw can u tell me half life 1 story, felix tell me story dogg!
and can any one tell me how can i become a seinor member, cause i dont like just the word ''member'' next to my amazing awsome name! MUTASEM SEMAKIEH
wingnut
This is a post to compare Half Life 2 to Halo 2. If you really want to talk about the story of Half Life I suggest you open up a new thread because there are many questions about that game that could be discussed.
Also, sorry I didn't answer your question about the ending of Half Life, but if you read my whole reply, you would have realized you could have e-mailed me about it.
Also, sorry I didn't answer your question about the ending of Half Life, but if you read my whole reply, you would have realized you could have e-mailed me about it.
Mutasem Semakieh
hmmmm.... would u just tell me plz? i swear i wont post another comment ! just tell me plz plz plz
and excusme me .. I dont need any tips, i played the game and was about a second away from finsihing it. I just need the story!!!! AND WTF IS A IMO???? AND WHY DO U THINK HALO 2 HAS MORE POP UPS THAN HALO 1??
and excusme me .. I dont need any tips, i played the game and was about a second away from finsihing it. I just need the story!!!! AND WTF IS A IMO???? AND WHY DO U THINK HALO 2 HAS MORE POP UPS THAN HALO 1??
felix
Mutasem,
Basic story of HL is your standard conspiracy thoery.
The guy in the Blue Suit (GMan) is the administrator of the Black Mesa facility (supposedly with Gov't links ie Area 51, CIA, NSA).
So, these scientists work out that using some new fangled gizmo they can teleport, but only using a triangulation of a co-ordinate on the Xen world. As a consequence, the Xen dwellers get mighty pissed off about this interuption and the fact that earth is much nicer than Xen, so when the cascade failure occurs (during the sample testing) they take the opportunity to have a hunting vacation on earth. Actually GMan likely knew this would happen and ordered the test to continue regardless.
Then Freeman decides that he doesn't like the new neighbours and begins to ask them to leave and GMan decides that this is quite nice, but has the military go in anyway as there are always more soldiers to fight.
Basically GMan is the equivalent to "Smoking Man" from X-Files who attempts to control/influence both sides to his own ends, which is why you can't shoot him, ever.
Basic story of HL is your standard conspiracy thoery.
The guy in the Blue Suit (GMan) is the administrator of the Black Mesa facility (supposedly with Gov't links ie Area 51, CIA, NSA).
So, these scientists work out that using some new fangled gizmo they can teleport, but only using a triangulation of a co-ordinate on the Xen world. As a consequence, the Xen dwellers get mighty pissed off about this interuption and the fact that earth is much nicer than Xen, so when the cascade failure occurs (during the sample testing) they take the opportunity to have a hunting vacation on earth. Actually GMan likely knew this would happen and ordered the test to continue regardless.
Then Freeman decides that he doesn't like the new neighbours and begins to ask them to leave and GMan decides that this is quite nice, but has the military go in anyway as there are always more soldiers to fight.
Basically GMan is the equivalent to "Smoking Man" from X-Files who attempts to control/influence both sides to his own ends, which is why you can't shoot him, ever.
Mutasem Semakieh
Wow THX man, Amazing!! When I was playing half life, i didnt know how to speak english at all lol!! any way thx a lot man, because its funny that now im a sophmore and still get those thoughts about who the hell was that man. But dang man!! I feel like going right now and buyinh half life 1 again!! lol. ok have fun guys.. Just dont be harsh on halo 2. BYE!!
Ill still be checking this site sometimes but Im not posting !
Ill still be checking this site sometimes but Im not posting !
ross_aveling
Originally posted by Mutasem Semakieh:
Quote:Ill still be checking this site sometimes but Im not posting ! That can only be a good thing after posts like this:
Quote:Rekyrts, *sigh* STFU you dumb ass, ur a noob that dont know what a good game is, half life 2, wait, actully half life 1 was better than quake 2 and ur cheap ass UNreal STFU!!!Anyhoo. I've just this minute finished HL2 and what I said before still holds true; first class right until the end.
BTW - Make sure you watch after the credits.
Quote:Ill still be checking this site sometimes but Im not posting ! That can only be a good thing after posts like this:
Quote:Rekyrts, *sigh* STFU you dumb ass, ur a noob that dont know what a good game is, half life 2, wait, actully half life 1 was better than quake 2 and ur cheap ass UNreal STFU!!!Anyhoo. I've just this minute finished HL2 and what I said before still holds true; first class right until the end.
BTW - Make sure you watch after the credits.
Mutasem Semakieh
What was wrong with my posting?? HE WAS WRONG AND U KNOW IT!!!
And can any one help me ?? My Gf is pregnant!!!!!
And can any one help me ?? My Gf is pregnant!!!!!
