DosFreak
Don't know if any of you guys have tried yet but the final version of Windows Defender does not install on Windows 2000 due to a limitation in the .MSI.
If you download Orca (MSI editor) (go to google and type in ORCA.ZIP + MSI).
Then download Windows Defender.
Now install Orca.
Open the Windows Defender.MSI with Orca.
Go to "Launch Condition".
On the right-hand side of the screen you'll see: "VersionNT > 500". Right click on this value and choose CUT.
Now save the file and run it.
Like the previous Beta of Defender you'll need GDI+:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/detai...;displaylang=en
Copy this .dll to your \WINNT\System32 directory.
I just finished installing Windows Defender, it just finished up[censored] and I am now running a spyware scan.
Enjoy!
If you download Orca (MSI editor) (go to google and type in ORCA.ZIP + MSI).
Then download Windows Defender.
Now install Orca.
Open the Windows Defender.MSI with Orca.
Go to "Launch Condition".
On the right-hand side of the screen you'll see: "VersionNT > 500". Right click on this value and choose CUT.
Now save the file and run it.
Like the previous Beta of Defender you'll need GDI+:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/detai...;displaylang=en
Copy this .dll to your \WINNT\System32 directory.
I just finished installing Windows Defender, it just finished up[censored] and I am now running a spyware scan.
Enjoy!
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jwcrim
This is the Definition Version that shows on the bottom of the screen in Defender:
Definition version: 1.0.0.0 created on 1/25/2006 at 2:29 PM.
Look at the Defender directory I found a bunch of dll's and these:
MpCmdRun.exe
MSASCui.exe
MsMpEng.exe
I ran MpCmdRun.exe and it ran at the command line then dissappeared quickly.
Running update again resulted in the same problem - can't install.
I ran MsMpEng.exe with similar results.
Seems pretty subborn.
Definition version: 1.0.0.0 created on 1/25/2006 at 2:29 PM.
Look at the Defender directory I found a bunch of dll's and these:
MpCmdRun.exe
MSASCui.exe
MsMpEng.exe
I ran MpCmdRun.exe and it ran at the command line then dissappeared quickly.
Running update again resulted in the same problem - can't install.
I ran MsMpEng.exe with similar results.
Seems pretty subborn.
jwcrim
I should have mentioned that running the command line routine did not remove the definitions. Defender still can run them.
jwcrim
Got the CLU to pause and was partially copied below. The problem seems to be that you can run it from the command line like this:
C:\Program Files\Windows Defender\MpCmdRun.exe
But not like this:
C:\Program Files\Windows Defender\MpCmdRun.exe -RemoveDefinitions / -All
In fact the program doesn't want to run with any modifiers including:
C:\Program Files\Windows Defender\MpCmdRun.exe -? / -h
Code:
C:\Program Files\Windows Defender\MpCmdRun.exe
But not like this:
C:\Program Files\Windows Defender\MpCmdRun.exe -RemoveDefinitions / -All
In fact the program doesn't want to run with any modifiers including:
C:\Program Files\Windows Defender\MpCmdRun.exe -? / -h
Code:
Usage:mpcmdrun.exe [command] [-options] Command Description -? / -h Displays all available options for this tool -Trace [-Grouping] [-Level] Starts diagnostic tracing -RemoveDefinitions [-All] Restores the installed signature definitions to a previous backup copy or to the original default set of signatures -RestoreDefaults Resets the Windows Defender registry settings to known good defaults -SignatureUpdate Checks for new definition updates -Scan [-ScanType] Scans for malicious software -GetSWE Exports information about software installed on your computer -GetFiles Collects support information
jwcrim
I "Updated" installation (not definitions) from Control Panel and got (MpCmdRun.exe -RemoveDefinitions -All) to work:
C:\Program Files\Windows Defender>MpCmdRun.exe -RemoveDefinitions -All
Service Version: 1.1.1593.0
Engine Version: 1.1.1603.0
AntiSpyware Base Signature Version: 1.0.0.0
AntiSpyware Delta Signature Version: 1.0.0.0
Starting engine and signature rollback to default...Done!
Service Version: 1.1.1593.0
Engine Version: 1.1.1603.0
AntiSpyware Base Signature Version: 1.0.0.0
AntiSpyware Delta Signature Version: 1.0.0.0
Ran "Update Definitions" from program but got same error message:
The program can't install definition updates
Error found: Code 0x80070643
What could be causing this?
C:\Program Files\Windows Defender>MpCmdRun.exe -RemoveDefinitions -All
Service Version: 1.1.1593.0
Engine Version: 1.1.1603.0
AntiSpyware Base Signature Version: 1.0.0.0
AntiSpyware Delta Signature Version: 1.0.0.0
Starting engine and signature rollback to default...Done!
Service Version: 1.1.1593.0
Engine Version: 1.1.1603.0
AntiSpyware Base Signature Version: 1.0.0.0
AntiSpyware Delta Signature Version: 1.0.0.0
Ran "Update Definitions" from program but got same error message:
The program can't install definition updates
Error found: Code 0x80070643
What could be causing this?
DosFreak
OP
Experiencing the same behavior with an XP desktop at work and one of my users called me today about his XP laptop.
Great MS, first we had the Beta 2 ver of Defender erroring out on bootup and now definitions don't install. Sigh.
I'd say the best fix is to uninstall this POS program......
Great MS, first we had the Beta 2 ver of Defender erroring out on bootup and now definitions don't install. Sigh.
I'd say the best fix is to uninstall this POS program......
jwcrim
The posts in this list by "sjk" might make some sense to you:
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsupdate/tree/browse_frm/thread/8990e0cb0b68985c/ecc4789bb1e4d938?rnum=1&q=0x80070643+defender&_done=%2Fgroup%2Fmicrosoft.public.windowsupdate%2Fbrowse_frm%2Fthread%2F8990e0cb0b68985c%2Fecc4789bb1e4d938%3Flnk%3Dgst%26q%3D0x80070643%2Bdefender%26rnum%3D1%26#doc_1b5ee63bd04d3473
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsupdate/tree/browse_frm/thread/8990e0cb0b68985c/ecc4789bb1e4d938?rnum=1&q=0x80070643+defender&_done=%2Fgroup%2Fmicrosoft.public.windowsupdate%2Fbrowse_frm%2Fthread%2F8990e0cb0b68985c%2Fecc4789bb1e4d938%3Flnk%3Dgst%26q%3D0x80070643%2Bdefender%26rnum%3D1%26#doc_1b5ee63bd04d3473
jwcrim
Pretty strange.
About a week ago I disabled the "automatic" feature of the updates then tried a few times again to manually download and install the definition update - and had no luck (installation failed).
A week or so later I tried the manual update attempt from Defender again - but this time it installed as it should have. So now things appear to be functional.
About a week ago I disabled the "automatic" feature of the updates then tried a few times again to manually download and install the definition update - and had no luck (installation failed).
A week or so later I tried the manual update attempt from Defender again - but this time it installed as it should have. So now things appear to be functional.
DosFreak
OP
I just tried this on the latest version of Defender and it still works.
Installed and downloaded the definitions and it's scanning.
More and more on XP/Vista (and I guess 2000 desktops as well although I don't use them that often).
I've been having to perform the following steps whenever Defender does not want to download definitions:
Start/Run/CMD
Surf to the Windows Defender directory in Program Files
type in MPCMDRUN -RemoveDefinitions -All
Net stop "Windows Defender"
Net start "Windows Defender"
Go to Windows Update and download the definitions. (Doing it through Defender the first time doesn't seem to work).
I just installed the latest Defender on 2000 and suprisingly it immediately downloaded the updates after install. Amazing.
Installed and downloaded the definitions and it's scanning.
More and more on XP/Vista (and I guess 2000 desktops as well although I don't use them that often).
I've been having to perform the following steps whenever Defender does not want to download definitions:
Start/Run/CMD
Surf to the Windows Defender directory in Program Files
type in MPCMDRUN -RemoveDefinitions -All
Net stop "Windows Defender"
Net start "Windows Defender"
Go to Windows Update and download the definitions. (Doing it through Defender the first time doesn't seem to work).
I just installed the latest Defender on 2000 and suprisingly it immediately downloaded the updates after install. Amazing.
Dagwood
Tried this last week and the modification and installation worked perfectly. Defender updated the definitions automatically and a full scan went without a hitch using the definitions of 18/7. Updayed today with definitions of 24/7, but now I can only carry out a quick scan- a full scan stops after a few minutes and I get a warning with code 0x8050800c. Rebooted- same result........... Ran Norton's Win Doctor, defragged......... still the same result. Full scans on XP using the same definitions worked flawlessly.
DosFreak
OP
Hmmm, make sure your running the latest ver of Defender and check you event log for the error. It may show the file it gets hung up on.
IIRC, the quick scan only checks a few locations whereas the full scan scans the entire disk so there may be a file that's locked and it cannot scan.
IIRC, the quick scan only checks a few locations whereas the full scan scans the entire disk so there may be a file that's locked and it cannot scan.
Dagwood
Despite several cleanups, Defender updates etc I still get hangups when running a full scan. This file is the culprit:
HKCU@S-1-5-21-861567501-1993962763-839522115-500\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\ZoneMap\Domains\elitemediagroup.net
Have been unable to find it with regedit, though.
HKCU@S-1-5-21-861567501-1993962763-839522115-500\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\ZoneMap\Domains\elitemediagroup.net
Have been unable to find it with regedit, though.
Ornette
Right - now does anyone know how to get MSN Messenger 7.5 running on Windows 2000?
Bazz
Well despite the OP being in 2006 this still works as I have just got Defender back up and running - belated thanks DosFreak.
DosFreak
OP
heh. You can thank MS for that. They haven't done any development on Defender for a long time and probably never will. I'm guessing their OneCare service is the replacement.
I still leave Defender enable on my systems but it's probably not worth the cycles and memory it takes up.
I still leave Defender enable on my systems but it's probably not worth the cycles and memory it takes up.
davidguy1
Hello i read your article on installing windows defender on windows 2000 i followed your instructions but i can't
install windows defender can you tell is there any thing else i may need to install windows defender thanks.
install windows defender can you tell is there any thing else i may need to install windows defender thanks.
xaml
Dear DosFreak,
Installing Windows Defender on Windows 2000, having edited the .msi in Orca and moved gdiplus.dll where it should, (and updated Windows Installer to 3.1), I got the following error when the installer was about to "Copy New Files" (meaning that launching the installer, vali[censored] and chosing setup options worked):
"The installer has encountered an unexpected error installing this package. This may indicate a problem with this package. The error code is 2356."
Can you help?
Installing Windows Defender on Windows 2000, having edited the .msi in Orca and moved gdiplus.dll where it should, (and updated Windows Installer to 3.1), I got the following error when the installer was about to "Copy New Files" (meaning that launching the installer, vali[censored] and chosing setup options worked):
"The installer has encountered an unexpected error installing this package. This may indicate a problem with this package. The error code is 2356."
Can you help?
kells smith
Has got quite useful information after reading all the comments as well as post.
MaryAnnDak
Ive been using Windows Defender plus free MalwareyBytes since I switched to Windows 10 in July, and I had been using the same combination on Windows 8.1 before. Never had a single infection but Im very cautious when browsing.
